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Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18

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    Odds from Sportsbet (Australia) for the 2nd Bled. Unbelievable.

    NZ $1.14
    Wobs $5.75

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    Anticipate minimal changes and no panic from Foster.

    1.Joe Moody, 2.Codie Taylor, 3.Ofa Tuungafasi, 4.Patrick Tuipulotu, 5.Samuel Whitelock, 6.Shannon Frizell, 7.Sam Cane (captain), 8.Ardie Savea, 9.Aaron Smith, 10.Richie Mo'unga, 11.Caleb Clarke, 12.Anton Lienert-Brown, 13.Jack Goodhue 14.Jordie Barrett 15.Beauden Barrett.

    16.Dane Coles, 17.Karl Tu'inukuafe, 18.Nepo Laulala/Tyrell Lomax, 19.Tupou Vaa'i, 20.Hoskins Sotutu, 21. TJ Perenara, 22.Rieko Ioane 23 George Bridge

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    @Derpus said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @sparky why doesn't Akira ever get a look in?

    Didn't endear himself to Hansen with some poor attitude toward conditioning and off-field issues. Major talent though. Graham Henry is on record as saying the two most powerful players he has coached are Jonah Lomu and Akira Ioane. I'd like to think Foster might try to handle Akira a bit differently to Hansen, but I'm not holding my breadth.

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    So if we are going to spend all our time tackling maybe we need an extra forward in the reserves. I would prefer that we played in the forwards more and coached them in keeping possession and increase the Aussie tackle count. Must be wearing to be tackling so much. No wonder we don’t see Frizzel or PT making any meters. So thinking out of the box and not being afraid to make changes:

    Moody, Taylor, Ofa, Whitelock, PT, Cane, Frizell, Sotutu (Lomax, Aumua, KT, Vaa’i, Ioane, Savea) Coles won’t be around in 4 years.

    Smith, RM, ALB, Ioane, Clarke, JB, Bridge ( reserves Ioane, Goodhue, TJP)

    In the backs Ioane cover obvious, Goodhue center with Ioane to wing, RM FB cover in a pinch. Wings and FBs don’t need subs in my mind. Should be able to go all game. Assume BB will be out but he would switch with Ioane if healthy). If he is fit would give more Ist five/fb cover.

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    @Derpus Because he upsets the public outside of Auckland and probably hurt Steve Hansen's feelings somewhere down the line which even this current crop are still upset about. It's all a bit stupid and childish that he hasn't been capped at test level by now.

    If Graham Henry was coach he'd have played about 20 tests by now.

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    @African-Monkey that may be the case but he has to be more responsible for himself. But we need some size and savea is not bringing it.

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    @DMX said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Anticipate minimal changes and no panic from Foster.

    1.Joe Moody, 2.Codie Taylor, 3.Ofa Tuungafasi, 4.Patrick Tuipulotu, 5.Samuel Whitelock, 6.Shannon Frizell, 7.Sam Cane (captain), 8.Ardie Savea, 9.Aaron Smith, 10.Richie Mo'unga, 11.Caleb Clarke, 12.Anton Lienert-Brown, 13.Jack Goodhue 14.Jordie Barrett 15.Beauden Barrett.

    16.Dane Coles, 17.Karl Tu'inukuafe, 18.Nepo Laulala/Tyrell Lomax, 19.Tupou Vaa'i, 20.Hoskins Sotutu, 21. TJ Perenara, 22.Rieko Ioane 23 George Bridge

    That's closer to what I'm expecting, I still think Ioane will beer in 13 tho

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    @akan004 said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Odds from Sportsbet (Australia) for the 2nd Bled. Unbelievable.

    NZ $1.14
    Wobs $5.75

    Have you looked at the recent history of games Vs wallabies after a shitter by the abs? Oh and the long term history of Eden park?

    Not so unbelievable

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    @Machpants said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @akan004 said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Odds from Sportsbet (Australia) for the 2nd Bled. Unbelievable.

    NZ $1.14
    Wobs $5.75

    Have you looked at the recent history of games Vs wallabies after a shitter by the abs? Oh and the long term history of Eden park?

    Not so unbelievable

    But this team is coached by Foster.

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    @akan004 said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Machpants said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @akan004 said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Odds from Sportsbet (Australia) for the 2nd Bled. Unbelievable.

    NZ $1.14
    Wobs $5.75

    Have you looked at the recent history of games Vs wallabies after a shitter by the abs? Oh and the long term history of Eden park?

    Not so unbelievable

    But this team is coached by Foster.

    Good point

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    Reiko gets the week off for that blunder. Nothing worse than a showboat all black.

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    @Hooroo said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Reiko gets the week off for that blunder. Nothing worse than a showboat all black.

    can we play Rieko though?

    Edit: and I wouldn't drop him for that - he's never going to make that mistake again

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    @nzzp said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Hooroo said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Reiko gets the week off for that blunder. Nothing worse than a showboat all black.

    can we play Rieko though?

    Edit: and I wouldn't drop him for that - he's never going to make that mistake again

    It's not the mistake that I would be dropping him for, it's the showboat combined with the mistake that I would drop him for.

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    @Hooroo yeah, if I were a selector I'd keep on with the combination. Midfield is hard - and he's got so much upside at 13 it's worth perservering.

    That said, I'm not sure why they have picked Goodhue at 12. There must be a reason, but he seems so much a better 13

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    @nzzp there's only one 13 spot and they are trying to shoehorn him into 12?

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    @Hooroo said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @nzzp said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Hooroo said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Reiko gets the week off for that blunder. Nothing worse than a showboat all black.

    can we play Rieko though?

    Edit: and I wouldn't drop him for that - he's never going to make that mistake again

    It's not the mistake that I would be dropping him for, it's the showboat combined with the mistake that I would drop him for.

    You must have hated Jeff Wilson, king of the showboat.

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    @Kirwan damn tv coverage didn't show Ioane being tackled as he " forced" the ball...

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    @nzzp said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Hooroo yeah, if I were a selector I'd keep on with the combination. Midfield is hard - and he's got so much upside at 13 it's worth perservering.

    That said, I'm not sure why they have picked Goodhue at 12. There must be a reason, but he seems so much a better 13

    I still think JG was selected ahead of ALB purely because of the support he offers RM on defence and the combo they have built.
    Seems like we are selecting around RM a lot.

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    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Hooroo said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @nzzp said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Hooroo said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Reiko gets the week off for that blunder. Nothing worse than a showboat all black.

    can we play Rieko though?

    Edit: and I wouldn't drop him for that - he's never going to make that mistake again

    It's not the mistake that I would be dropping him for, it's the showboat combined with the mistake that I would drop him for.

    You must have hated Jeff Wilson, king of the showboat.

    Can't ever remember Goldie dropping the ball over the try line with no one within 5 metres of him to cost the ABs a Test win. Reiko is the undisputed King of the dumb showboat.

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    @sparky said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Hooroo said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @nzzp said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Hooroo said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Reiko gets the week off for that blunder. Nothing worse than a showboat all black.

    can we play Rieko though?

    Edit: and I wouldn't drop him for that - he's never going to make that mistake again

    It's not the mistake that I would be dropping him for, it's the showboat combined with the mistake that I would drop him for.

    You must have hated Jeff Wilson, king of the showboat.

    Can't ever remember Goldie dropping the ball over the try line with no one within 5 metres of him to cost the ABs a Test win. Reiko is the undisputed King of the dumb showboat.

    Give it a rest. As pointed out earlier, Cully did the same thing and he's still a legend

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