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    @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

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    @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

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    @MN5 it depends on what the criteria is for rating them , i rate ali the greatest for his skill level , but it doesn't necessarily mean he would have beaten them all . All fighters are beatable on their day . But his skill level was something else .

    The other guy who very rarely gets a mention is Larry Holmes, came along just after the Ali/ frazier / Foreman / Norton / shavers era , came a bit late to fight them in their prime . Didnt quite have the great names on his W resume , but the same could be said of others like tyson . But dominated the division and was clearly in their class.

    For a while there , there was this regular pattern , where the great of his era near the end , past his best,probably still hanging on . would suffer a humiliating loss to a younger next great on the rise , It kept repeating .

    Floyd Patterson - Ali- Holmes - Tyson - Lewis

    Very true.

    And true of all sports - passing on the batton.

    Ali is my favourite fighter, but for pitting people in their prime against each other then I think Tyson would beat everyone 6 out of 10 times. At least.

    Tyson was a fast starter , probably the best in that area , if he had a weakness, that ferocity could not be Possibly maintained for 12 rounds . And he could be made to look ponderous in later rounds .

    If I had to pick someone To Stay out of harms way early and take him into deep water , and you might be surprised at my answer, it would be Tyson fury . Such a big unit at 6 foot 9 , With good defensive skills .

    In a match up of styles ,(Not rankings Of greatnesses) I think that would be my pick

    I get the feeling Fury is gonna be extremely lauded after he retires ( even if he is a 30 stone blimp propping up a bar telling yarns )

    I think we ( well most of us ) underestimated how crafty he is ,

    When he beats wider again , Joshua twice ( my prediction) and all other challenges he will cement his place as one of the greats imo

    Well probably, but with Fury you get the feeling he’s a chance to have several too many Guinesses, come in unprepared and get dropped by Wilder.

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    I remember being a fair bit freaked out watching Roy Jones Jr box. I didn't really follow up on him but my recollection was that he was the best in a bit of a boxing nadir.

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    @Siam said in Boxing Thread:

    I remember being a fair bit freaked out watching Roy Jones Jr box. I didn't really follow up on him but my recollection was that he was the best in a bit of a boxing nadir.

    Magnificent fighter ,And now an insightful commentator, as skilled as any fighter I have seen In any division , most of the discussion here is with the heavyweights, so I stay on topic .
    But I’m a big fan of the middleweight division as well , Roy is as good as I have seen

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    @kiwiinmelb And now training Chris Eubank Jr. Will eb interesting to see if he makes any tweaks to Eubank's style.

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    Tyson vs Roy Jones Jr (Sept 12)

    Jul 23, 2020  /  01:59

    Tyson-Jones Jr. exhibition match set for Sept. 12

    Tyson-Jones Jr. exhibition match set for Sept. 12

    Mike Tyson, 54, who last fought in 2005, has agreed to fight Roy Jones Jr. in an exhibition match in September.

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    @Duluth said in Boxing Thread:

    Tyson vs Roy Jones Jr (Sept 12)

    Jul 23, 2020  /  01:59

    Tyson-Jones Jr. exhibition match set for Sept. 12

    Tyson-Jones Jr. exhibition match set for Sept. 12

    Mike Tyson, 54, who last fought in 2005, has agreed to fight Roy Jones Jr. in an exhibition match in September.

    Considering last time i saw Roy, Danny Green tapped him on the head and he fell over, this could go badly if, and it's a big if, Mike can move as well as very short social media videos are indicating.

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    Good mates , im tipping they will be looking after each other, bit of a spar session and cash in

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    The bare knuckle fight might have been more interesting.

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    How would you like to wear these body shots when you weigh in at 72 kg ?

    Canelo is a beast

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    For Boxing fans in Aus ,

    Whyte v Povetkin on Foxtel , free , Ch 505 Sunday between 4-9 am , good score to get this for no charge

    main event probably between 7-9 or thereabouts , winner gets a shot at the winner of Fury Wilder 3 .

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    @kiwiinmelb Which is annoying because all they're doing is hoding up Fury v AJ. Lets face it no-one apart from people who listen to Eddie Hearn's garbage and believe everything he has to say wants to watch Fury v Whyte or Povetkin for that matter.

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    @African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:

    @kiwiinmelb Which is annoying because all they're doing is hoding up Fury v AJ. Lets face it no-one apart from people who listen to Eddie Hearn's garbage and believe everything he has to say wants to watch Fury v Whyte or Povetkin for that matter.

    Yep , agree , If fury beats wilder , which he should , i would prefer to watch Fury v AJ, Wilder v Whyte

    But tomorrows fight is a fairly decent match up at the next level down ,

    I wouldnt pay for it , But for free is a good watch around breakfast time

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    @kiwiinmelb Yeah it is a good fight. Can't stand Whyte personally and hope that Povetkin can turn back the clock but he's well over the hill now and his stamina isn't great these days as was shown in his last fight with Michael Hunter where I thought he was very lucky to get a draw (I had it 116-112 Hunter). Unfortunately I think Whyte will catch him and stop him late on.

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    Wow

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    Job done.

    I wonder if that was a planned setup or instinct? It was very fast.
    It’s like deliberately missed a high jab to suck Whyte into dropping his hand to the body. Took a weak body shot to open a gap to the chin.

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    Povetkin proving me wrong and proving how clever he still is. He set that trap up beautifully slipping past Whyte's sloppy straight right and catching him with a beaut of an uppercut. Povetkin still proving to best at setting traps in the HW division turning back the clock there. See ya Whyte.

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    Might be a blessing for the division , (not whyte )

    Whyte has a rematch clause with povetkin ,it seems the mandatory fight against the winner of Fury v Wilder only applied to Whyte , Povetkin has to take the rematch against Whyte first , and gets it if he wins again , didnt hear anything about that in the lead up, but eddie was quick to mention it after the fight

    while that is all taking place ,It might open a door to get a Fury v AJ fight instead , should they both win their fights .......... hopefully

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    @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

    Might be a blessing for the division , (not whyte )

    Whyte has a rematch clause with povetkin ,it seems the mandatory fight against the winner of Fury v Wilder only applied to Whyte , Povetkin has to take the rematch against Whyte first , and gets it if he wins again , didnt hear anything about that in the lead up, but eddie was quick to mention it after the fight

    while that is all taking place ,It might open a door to get a Fury v AJ fight instead , should they both win their fights .......... hopefully

    Thanks for (long time) coming Dillian.

    Let's see some real stuff please.

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    @MiketheSnow Hopefully we don't have to listen to anymore rubbish on how hard done by he has and how wonderful his resume is (which it isn't), and how he fights anybody anywhere (which again isn't true).

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