All Blacks Form XV
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@Kiwiwomble Laumape was playing the house down before injury struck. Definitely the form 12 in the comp.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Form XV:
@Bovidae so, the question is, being three years from the next WC....do we sacrifice the experience now to build some experience in someone new for down the track?
it's not like someone is bashing down the door and Sam is holding him back.
Not that it really matters this year, but i reckon Sam holds his spot for a bit of experience at least until BBBR comes back (assuming he comes back).
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@mariner4life has he been head a shoulders above the some of the younger guys though?
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I can't see Whitelock lasting until 2023, but he can still play a valuable role over the next 2 years. He's played a hell of a lot of rugby in the last decade.
Tuipulotu needs to be given as much gametime as possible as he should be the one constant over this 4-year cycle. The AB coaches also need to identify the next tier of locks and develop them alongside the incumbents. I'm sure they know who they want for each specific role at lock.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks Form XV:
He's played a hell of a lot of rugby in the last decade.
i made that comment last year. With Sam it's not the age, it's the miles on the clock. Huge amount of code, and test rugby pretty much since the start. Great player though, so i hope he gets to exit on his own terms.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks Form XV:
Whether you guys like it or not, as soon as he's fit again, Scott Barrett will be in the mix as ABs lock, too.
I like it.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks Form XV:
Whether you guys like it or not, as soon as he's fit again, Scott Barrett will be in the mix as ABs lock, too.
good squaddie. Not really good enough to be first choice.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks Form XV:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks Form XV:
Whether you guys like it or not, as soon as he's fit again, Scott Barrett will be in the mix as ABs lock, too.
good squaddie. Not really good enough to be first choice.
Agreed, and not a flankers arsehole.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks Form XV:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks Form XV:
Whether you guys like it or not, as soon as he's fit again, Scott Barrett will be in the mix as ABs lock, too.
good squaddie. Not really good enough to be first choice.
yet.
Like his brother though, could step up further (like not copping red cards, for instance)
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Form XV:
@nzzp ...i mean...he's 26 with 4 years in the AB's and 30+ caps...if he hasn't stepped up yet....
Huh - older than I thought.
He's also been up against BBBR and SW - one of the great locking combos. Like Ofa, could have a breakout season. Coachs like him, I'm sure he'll step up if he's capable of it
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@cgrant said in All Blacks Form XV:
Hmmm, does he like the tight work ? I'm not sure of this. He always stands on the wing for the Highlanders, far from the rucks and mauls.
you might be thinking of someone else...Frizzell is always in amoungst the tight stuff, he's often first choice for a hit up and defends one off the ruck, hence being second on the comp tackle stats