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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    tackling stats are meaningless when it comes to effective defense.

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    replied to antipodean on last edited by Stargazer
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    @antipodean Yeah, I agree with that, but these stats show that people making general claims about some players being bad tacklers are just plain wrong.

    By the way, using stats - to make general claims - to talk up players should be treated with the same amount of reservation as using stats to say that certain players are not good/not good enough/average/bad.

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    #40

    when watching a game, a poor read on defence, and not close enough to attempt a tackle doesnt get counted as a miss.

    Also do they count tackle assists or when more than 1 person was part of a tackle?

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    @taniwharugby said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    when watching a game, a poor read on defence, and not close enough to attempt a tackle doesnt get counted as a miss.

    Also do they count tackle assists or when more than 1 person was part of a tackle?

    ah yes, the Nathan Hindmarsh "40 tackles" stat. 15 tackles and 25 flops

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
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    @taniwharugby thats probably more of an issue for outside backs though isn't it? getting caught out of position

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    If a 1st 5 is defending in their channel the opposing player will be running at you so a missed tackle usually means you've been sat on your arse, or slipped off a tackle. A fullback has much more space to defend in comparison so it's not surprising their success % will be lower.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by taniwharugby
    #44

    @Kiwiwomble many on that list are outside backs or sometimes drop back to defend back as well.

    BUt as @Bovidae says, often if a 10 misses, he is usually speed bumped, but by the same token, if a 10 holds on by the foot and the 7 finishes, the 10 still gets a 'tackle'

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    If this game does go ahead hopefully Pickerill is stuck in Auckland.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300081315/super-rugby-aotearoa-highlanders-halfback-aaron-smith-on-verge-of-150th-game

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    Keen to see how Booth does starting.

    Hopefully Rayasi gets some decent minutes.

    Fidow out of favour or injured?

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    PUJ at 12 - I wonder if that is a request from the AB selectors....

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    To me PUJ looks more like he's suited to 12 with his carries and off load game, pleased to see him there. Not sure about Proctor though, rather Aso there and Rayasi in the starting team.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    TJ not available
    van Wyk injured
    Aumua sick

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/122433372/super-rugby-aotearoa-dadtobe-tj-perenara-to-miss-hurricanes-farewell-match-in-dunedin

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    @foobaNZ Proctor is only 21, the kid deserves a chance to shine.

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    @Canes4life yup hopefully he comes right, would be great if he got as good as his brother was. Time will tell.

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    @Canes4life There are more players deserving of a chance to shine ... Lowe only got 14 minutes, last week. I hope Rayasi gets more. Toala ...

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    I can't believe that van Wyk's hearing has taken so long.

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    @Stargazer how does Lowe deserve more of chance? He's a winger...

    Isn't Toala injured?

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    @Canes4life said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:

    @Stargazer how does Lowe deserve more of chance? He's a winger...

    By not moving Aso to the right wing, but keeping him in the midfield with PU-J.

    Isn't Toala injured?

    Nope, he's been playing club rugby for Hastings.

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