'Super Rugby' 2021
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@Bovidae said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
From meetings today there is a very real chance SRA is played again in 2021 unless Aussie sorts its shit out.
Could we just add the PI team to the 5 NZ teams? Or add a new NZ team and PI?
Comp is good, but it needs more teams. Might as well try to plan for the future as self sufficient and help the island countries.
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i think first up we should have some sort of finals
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@Kirwan said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Bovidae said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
From meetings today there is a very real chance SRA is played again in 2021 unless Aussie sorts its shit out.
Could we just add the PI team to the 5 NZ teams? Or add a new NZ team and PI?
Comp is good, but it needs more teams. Might as well try to plan for the future as self sufficient and help the island countries.
3 Japanese company teams and we would be there: Panasonic (Robbie), Kobe (Dave Dillon), and Suntory (Milton Haig/O'Halloran)
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@gt12 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kirwan said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Bovidae said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
From meetings today there is a very real chance SRA is played again in 2021 unless Aussie sorts its shit out.
Could we just add the PI team to the 5 NZ teams? Or add a new NZ team and PI?
Comp is good, but it needs more teams. Might as well try to plan for the future as self sufficient and help the island countries.
3 Japanese company teams and we would be there: Panasonic (Robbie), Kobe (Dave Dillon), and Suntory (Milton Haig/O'Halloran)
I like the idea, but as it is right now, would they be competitive? Genuine question.
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They might need some help, but Barrett plays for Sungoliath next year, with Hendrix, McMahon, Li, Kerevi, and Will Chambers.
Kobe has BBBR, Franklin, Buckman, Lafaele, Parker, Yamashita (ex Chiefs) and have signed Ben Smith and Aaron Cruden.
Panasonic has Pocock, Kruis signed,
Rapana, Horie, Inagaki, And a few other lesser lights, but they’ve been the best team for a while.I think one of the bigger problems is that many of the overseas’ talents might not want to go back to Super rugby.
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@gt12 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kirwan said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Bovidae said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
From meetings today there is a very real chance SRA is played again in 2021 unless Aussie sorts its shit out.
Could we just add the PI team to the 5 NZ teams? Or add a new NZ team and PI?
Comp is good, but it needs more teams. Might as well try to plan for the future as self sufficient and help the island countries.
3 Japanese company teams and we would be there: Panasonic (Robbie), Kobe (Dave Dillon), and Suntory (Milton Haig/O'Halloran)
love the idea -- but how do the seasons fit? Right now it's 35 degrees most days in Tokyo ... do we just play summer rugby on pro grounds and accept it?
I'm fully with getting Japan on board because of timezones, but crikey the seasons don't work well for us. Same problem SA has in Europe.
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That's a great point. If the season timeframe is the same as this year, absolutely no way.
It's 35 degrees today.
I’d say any games held in Japan would have to finish before the end of June. Even then, it would be warm, but shouldn't be over 30 (could happen though).
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@gt12 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
That's a great point. If the season timeframe is the same as this year, absolutely no way.
It's 35 degrees today.
I’d say any games held in Japan would have to finish before the end of June. Even then, it would be warm, but shouldn't be over 30 (could happen though).
any reason we can't play Super in the hot weather though? I mean they played League 9s ... it's just faster. The grounds these days are soft and well watered, so shouldn't be an impediment. Maybe night rugby is the way to go - hot, but not ridiculous, and no sun to cook the players?
Doing some research, Weatherspark shows this for Tokyo - that up to June it's usually not too bad at night
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I thought we all agreed days games rule?!
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@nzzp said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@gt12 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
That's a great point. If the season timeframe is the same as this year, absolutely no way.
It's 35 degrees today.
I’d say any games held in Japan would have to finish before the end of June. Even then, it would be warm, but shouldn't be over 30 (could happen though).
any reason we can't play Super in the hot weather though? I mean they played League 9s ... it's just faster. The grounds these days are soft and well watered, so shouldn't be an impediment. Maybe night rugby is the way to go - hot, but not ridiculous, and no sun to cook the players?
Doing some research, Weatherspark shows this for Tokyo - that up to June it's usually not too bad at night
I've played a rep game at 36 degrees at 2pm on a Tropical summers day, so the humidity was through the roof. I played 80 minutes, and i nearly fucking died. It's incredibly stressful on your body even at that level, and even if you live here. At Super rugby speed, having flown in from say, Dunedin, someone would cook themselves.
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@mariner4life even at 7 or so, without the sun and under 30 degrees?
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@nzzp said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@mariner4life even at 7 or so, without the sun and under 30 degrees?
still really hot (i understand Tokyo is pretty humid in summer)
The other thing is, over summer, won't that make kick-off times 11pm NZ time?
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@mariner4life you're right -- but if we can live with Perth and SA, we can live with an 11pm game every second week.
Edit: if we can play afternoon games in Brisbane in February, I reckon we could send folk up there every second year. I'm talking myself into HTFU. Kinda like sending the Sri Lankan and Indian cricket teams to Dunedin in October ... it's home advantage y'all
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I think that playing it over the regular Super season is really pushing it - it finished the first weekend of July last year which should really be the limit.
I think it was in 2017 that the competition played through July and the Blues got smashed - not only because of the heat - but certainly helped a long by it. I didn’t go to that game because I didn’t want to sit outside in it!
Night games would help, but if it’s in July it could be hammering down in 30 degree heat with 90% humidity. So, not exactly a great product.
So, there are some problems with having Japanese teams that would need sorting out - season timing would be crucial.
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@mariner4life said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@nzzp said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@mariner4life even at 7 or so, without the sun and under 30 degrees?
still really hot (i understand Tokyo is pretty humid in summer)
The other thing is, over summer, won't that make kick-off times 11pm NZ time?
Kick off 7AM< even cooler and nice lunch time games for us
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It doesn't really matter. Top League are only interested in some sort of Champions League tie-in.
Actually whether that it top league, or JRFU, or (only some individuals) inside JRFU I'm not sure.
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Bad news, is it would be in June or July ....... but rugby calendars at the moment, who knows.
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Whatever the solution is, I want Friday night footy back again.
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@antipodean said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
Whatever the solution is, I want Friday night footy back again.
Fucken agree. Sunday afternoons are generally a fluffybunny.
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As predicted, by everyone but NZR it seems, AR have come out and said it’s 5 teams or 0, your choice NZ. NZR have totally fucked this by making it all public. Dicks
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