Chiefs v Crusaders

pakman

@pakman said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

good clearance from scrum

You were going so well

Yes, it wasn’t the given one might expect at this level. Cruds and Weber seemed to be on different frequencies at times.

mariner4life

One point from my perspective.

Mounga and Jordan the most dangerous players on the park, looking like top level players.

While our starting all black wingers just look average.

And for all our talk of midfield depth, the guys most likely to start the first test aren't showing much.

Okay 2 points.

Bones

@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

Jordan the most dangerous players on the park, looking like top level players.

Such an enigma. Like others have said, he just looks like he's going for a brisk walk with little to no purpose and then beats a kazillion people or emerges from within 8 players having beaten them for a kick. He's the anti Ben Smith who made every jink or break look like he was trying to stop the earth turning.

kiwiinmelb

@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

One point from my perspective.

Mounga and Jordan the most dangerous players on the park, looking like top level players.

While our starting all black wingers just look average.

And for all our talk of midfield depth, the guys most likely to start the first test aren't showing much.

Okay 2 points.

I would actually consider Jordan to play right wing

booboo

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

Holy fuck. @Frank just booboo'd, but what caused the booboo was a @booboo post. My head hurts.

I get in first occasionally

booboo

@Duluth said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

Good pace off the back of that scrum from Sowakula

He's been improving from that first round where everyone wanted him banished from the squad

booboo

@Kirwan said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

Embarrassing defence there

Edit: not DMac, that was a good effort

Poor bugger. Showed some guts. Just too small.

nzzp

thanks to whoever posted the laws before - I learned something today. Based on those laws, clear no try -- it's not the same as a throw forward.

Refereeing has been in the spotlight, and not in a good way. Our referees haven't been great for a while, and it's wider than that generally. We are making the game harder to ref, and giving the refs less support. Not sure what to do, but if I had to invest in one place, referee developmnet would be it!

booboo

@Donsteppa said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

Gah Weber you dick

Yep, not sure why Smithy is praising him.

Hawkes?

booboo

@junior said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

Someone should start a drinking game for every tine Marshall mentions how quick Bridge is

Expensive supplying the piss

booboo

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

Who is the female commentator? "Jordan, peeled back by Cane" 😳

Rikki Swannell. Agree with the sentiment about that comment but I reckon she does a reasonable job. Much preferable to Laban.

Edit: forgot to mention she's done quite a bit of the 7s recently.

booboo

@Toddy said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@mariner4life backwards out of the hands. That's what matters

I see @Bones posted the law that refutes that

booboo

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.

Worth re qoting

taniwharugby

@nzzp yea kudos to whoever's that was, def wasnt @bones so that's all good.

Although I would add that it seems silly not to apply the same logic surrounding momentum and motion in this situation.

booboo

@KiwiMurph said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

Is there a reason why Tahuriorangi isn't playing?

Worth asking again.

booboo

@Chris said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Chris said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@No-Quarter said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@taniwharugby said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Bones when have I steered you wrong?

In this thread!

@No-Quarter yeah I posted up the law. Refs ruling it like forward pass when it's different.

Sorry I missed that. Yup amateur hour.

Crusaders too good in the end, but that kind of decision is similar to what drives people crazy when it happens to their team against the ABs. You just can't afford really basic mistakes like that going against you if you want to have a chance, especially when it directly leads to a try.

Also brings into question the supposed intentional knock on by Stevenson. His hand was facing backwards...

No downwards fair call Yc

Any chance you can explain where to find the law about downwards?

palm facing the ground on contact In front of your
body is a knock down not back wards
If he had attempted to knock it upwards to retain
The ball fair enough but he didn’t
So he knocked it downwards so penalty
I suppose it cost the chiefs the game well
no it didn’t
So who cares

Downwards is legal. Forwards is not. (It was a deliberate knock forward- 100% legit YC.)

booboo

@Machpants said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

Excellent Maul for try 3

A thing of beauty

booboo

@Siam said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

Nothing can tell the story of the game more appropriately than 5 tries to 1.

Everything that the Chiefs have achieved in this cruel season has been due to pride and team spirit rather than "imported" coaching.

Apart from the Welsh guy

kiwiinmelb

@booboo said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

@Bones said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.

Worth re qoting

makes sense , applying the backwards out of the hands would be a can of worms in regards to knock ons

booboo

A couple of things re Reffing decisions.

Absolute blatant howler for the Strange/Reece try. But the big calls for me were kind of split.

Weber should have got a card for the push in the air.

Apply the same logic about knock on/lost forward to the Chief's try and scrutinise that and see if you'd award it.

Stevenson definite YC.

Moaning both ways is appropriate.

The Silver Fern

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