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  • TimT Away
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    A reminder of where Julian Savea was at as a wing when he left:

    https://thechaserugby.com/2018/02/22/super-rugby-2018-new-zealand-conference-preview/

    The same metrics which mark out Braydon Ennor and Will Jordan as interesting prospects in the back three provide insight into the struggles of Julian Savea: he turned the ball over more frequently and offloaded less frequently than any other All Blacks outside back across 2016 and 2017. These figures did not improve markedly during the 2017 Mitre 10 Cup, as we can see from the graph above.

    It is tempting to put these figures down to a deterioration of basic skills, but – as he showed in New Zealand’s season opening win against Samoa – his passing ability and alignment are still elite for an international winger. Evidence from NPC play and the 2018 Brisbane Tens tournament – where he appeared susceptible to knocking on when leading with the ball into contact – suggests that it may be a result of a decline from his power into the tackle, a defining feature of his game early in his career.

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    Geezus. They're nuts.

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    @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2020:

    Geezus. They're nuts.

    he's 1 inch taller than Blackwell, so joining as a lock?

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    The article on Stuff also says Laumape could be out until Nov.

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    @Stockcar86 Or as a prop, replacing Fraser Armstrong?

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    @Bovidae said in Hurricanes 2020:

    The article on Stuff also says Laumape could be out until Nov.

    sickening disrespect

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    Darren
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    Oh man, I remember he had about the biggest decline I have ever seen, from a very good All Black, to not even NPC reserve standard, really curious to see how he is now, rejuvenated from his over seas vacation or if he has declined even more - it will be comical.

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    Prop sized winger who has been out of form for half a decade to replace a midfielder. I wonder if he'll go straight into the lineup next week. Lowe, Rayasi, Toala (any other Canes backs I've missed) will all be WTF.

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    @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

    Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

    Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

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    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

    @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

    Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

    Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

    I heard that. She didn't get on with the rest of the family? Duke of Sussex syndrome

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    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

    @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

    Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

    Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

    I didn't mention his age at all, just his form. No idea if his on field form for half a decade was related to his missus.

    The Canes have midfielders and outside backs in their squad who should be played before him.

    Although I do need to edit my original post as I was focussed on midfield, as the Canes have lost two wings in recent weeks.

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    @Nepia There are only two games left to play and with the Canes citing poverty as the reason for releasing Carlos Spencer there can be very little justification in spending money they presumably need for other purposes on players they don't really need given they still have Vince Aso, Billy Proctor, Salesi Rayasi, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Kobus van Wyk, Jonah Lowe, Chase Tiatia and Wes Goosen all listed or have been used on the wing in their squad.

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    @Higgins crazy, but fits right in with some of the decisions they've made this season

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    Can anyone confirm the other 3 replacements for Laumape, Armstrong and Evans?

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    @mikey07 I was told Norm Hewett showed glimpses of class in his appearance for the Centurions on Saturday over in Wainuiomata. He must be in with a chance of a surprise recall in replacement for Armstrong given he is now the size of a good old fashioned prop. HIs last really good performance would be about the same time as J Savea's last one.

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    @Nepia said in Hurricanes 2020:

    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

    @Nepia He's not that old, and looks in good shape in recent photos. I hope he plays well, he was excellent for the ABs.

    Put him in the midfield and he might be great.

    Wasn't there a lot of off field distractions caused by his missus?

    I didn't mention his age at all, just his form. No idea if his on field form for half a decade was related to his missus.

    The Canes have midfielders and outside backs in their squad who should be played before him.

    Although I do need to edit my original post as I was focussed on midfield, as the Canes have lost two wings in recent weeks.

    I just mentioned it because it's not like he's over the hill. Getting in an ex-AB in an injury crisis is a good move, doesn't mean he'll play ahead of those guys

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    Welcome back home to Da Bus! A fantastic player when he was at his best.

    Not expecting miracles from a guy nearly 30 who has had injury and fitness issues, but could yet be a shrewd signing. He mostly played in the midfield for Toulon.

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    wrote on last edited by Stargazer
    #992

    For anyone, who missed it. Not only Laumape is ruled out of the rest of SRA. Also Fraser Armstrong. Both need surgery. Gareth Evans' injury is also season-ending.

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    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes 2020:

    Getting in an ex-AB in an injury crisis is a good move, doesn't mean he'll play ahead of those guys

    There's two ways he can silence the critics in this thread - play well or sign for Hawkes

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    replied to Duluth on last edited by Stargazer
    #994

    @Duluth Nope, you're wrong there with the last bit. The idea ... 🤮

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