Highlanders v Crusaders
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@Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@kiwiinmelb said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
I just don’t get why penalties are given when one scrum just demolished another, that just penalising someone for not being strong enough, that can’t change that
Out of interest, what do you want them to rule when the scrum gets messy because one scrum is inferior ,
I don’t think they have an option
Free kick, team that won the ball gets the ball
Ok fair enough
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
Fainganuku gets up and goes again without releasing after being brought down in a tackle. Guess we're just going back to how it was then eh.
He wasn't tackled
Oh he fell over. Under the force of someone else, from the opposition. Went to ground in a non tackle. Ok then...
He wasn't near being held. He doesn't have to release.
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@Bones doesnt he have to be held as well when he goes to ground, not just bought down by the opposition?
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@taniwharugby said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Bones doesnt he have to be held as well when he goes to ground, not just bought down by the opposition?
That would be a penalty for not releasing the tackled player...
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@Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
I just don’t get why penalties are given when one scrum just demolished another, that just penalising someone for not being strong enough, they can’t change that
Problem there is that the Landers prop lost their bind because of the pressure. That should be (and is) penalty.
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Frizell again with good low body position and leg drive.
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@KiwiMurph said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
Fainganuku gets up and goes again without releasing after being brought down in a tackle. Guess we're just going back to how it was then eh.
He wasn't tackled
Oh he fell over. Under the force of someone else, from the opposition. Went to ground in a non tackle. Ok then...
He wasn't near being held. He doesn't have to release.
Ok interested to see how that stacks up against the laws and current focus...
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@Bones but he didnt still have contact when he went to ground, hence why he was allowed to get up
Tackler can bring him down, when they are still in contact, both tackler and tacklee have a responsibility to let go and place ball (respectively) but if you manage to bring someone down but lose contact with them, then they are allowed to get up
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@ACT-Crusader said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
Frizell again with good low body position and leg drive.
Funny how he looked up and saw Mounga... decision made, I'm going straight.
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@taniwharugby yep I understand that, but for mine when he hit the ground he was still in contact with the tackler.
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Can we please keep it with our forward, they are next level compared to our backs
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ball touched the grass?
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Poor attempt by Ala'alatoa
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@Bones well thats fair enough, all comes down to those micro moments of how the ref sees it..
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@ACT-Crusader said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
I just don’t get why penalties are given when one scrum just demolished another, that just penalising someone for not being strong enough, they can’t change that
Problem there is that the Landers prop lost their bind because of the pressure. That should be (and is) penalty.
Under the laws of course...I just don’t think it should be a rule, he hadn’t done something reckless or against the rules to get an advantage, he’s folded under pressure...that doesn’t feel like something you should loose points for
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@taniwharugby said in Highlanders v Crusaders:
@Bones well thats fair enough, all comes down to those micro moments of how the ref sees it..
Yeah however that's why I thought they announced these new focuses - take that out of it. Sure if a player falls over, let them get up. If a player is brought to ground by the actions of the oppo...play the ball.
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@Kiwiwomble yeah is a tough one really, because ultimately a dominant team/pack should be rewarded for thier dominance, but not sure it should be braodly applied
