Aussie Pro Rugby
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The captains are at it again
The 10 dissident Wallabies captains are threatening to revive their threat to propose a special general meeting of Rugby Australia members unless RA chairman Paul McLean and his directors honour promises made by former board member Peter Wiggs before he resigned from the board. The threat was contained in a letter distributed by Rugby Union Players Association chief executive Justin Harrison on behalf of the 10 captains on Tuesday to member unions and Super Rugby chief executives. A copy of his letter was leaked to The Australian. Wiggs was seemingly on his way to becoming RA chairman when he met with former Wallabies captains Nick Farr-Jones and Phil Kearns and Harrison on April 27. At that meeting, which the captains describe as “very positive”, Wiggs gave the players a number of undertakings that RA would: • Confirm a review process, consistent with the one outlined in the captains’ Australian Rugby Review Board charter. • Form three operating committees in the areas of 1) finance, business and governance; 2) current financial position, efficiencies, forecasts, relationships with member unions, options for appropriate corporate structures, etc; and 3) broadcasting, sponsors and relationships, creation and management of external relationships with parties to bring the required capital to the game, “Community to Wallaby”, rebuilding the links with our grassroots clubs, developing viable competition structures, revisiting performance at all levels, including high performance. Wiggs was, at the time, preparing for a “deep dive” into RA financial records. -
@KiwiMurph They want the current interim chairman to be held to promises that may have been made by a bloke who spat the dummy after five minutes in the job? Are these clowns retarded?
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@KiwiMurph They want the current interim chairman to be held to promises that may have been made by a bloke who spat the dummy after five minutes in the job? Are these clowns retarded?
yes.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
Are these clowns retarded?
Rugby Union Players Association chief executive Justin Harrison
Yes.
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fuck it, give them the keys. here you go fluffybunnies, you do a better job.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
fuck it, give them the keys. here you go fluffybunnies, you do a better job.
you can't un-crash the car, though.
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@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
fuck it, give them the keys. here you go fluffybunnies, you do a better job.
you can't un-crash the car, though.
because it's running so well now?
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
fuck it, give them the keys. here you go fluffybunnies, you do a better job.
you can't un-crash the car, though.
because it's running so well now?
nah, but there's some hope. If you let those muppets loose, it's probably shut the door in a few months material.
It's important to NZ Rugby that Aus rugby is strong. We get real benefits from them - attendance at NZ games, TV revenue, and decent opposition to play against. We lose this at our peril - it's a tragedy what's been happening in the administration side of the game.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
fuck it, give them the keys. here you go fluffybunnies, you do a better job.
Fuck yeah. Go mad you silly fluffybunnies.
Captains of industry and commerce think they know how to fix the game, yet almost all of them sat on various boards and committees and apparently let it run into the ground.
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@nzzp yup you can be stood down without pay due to CV, and the gov picks up the wages. But they've refused the gov wages too.
SA were up front and gave everyone 3 weeks to either hand their notice in, or accept cuts. Ozzie and NZ have players unions that negotiator on their behalf, dunno about SA.
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"Rugby players stood down after agent refuses to take pay cut"
Take a pay cut or you don't have a job. Seems a bit unusual - generally taking pay cuts is voluntary, and doesn't necessarily count against you if redundancies happen.
Still, I"m not an expert in Australian employment law so who knows
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@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:
@Tim seems crazy. Is that legal?
Entirely - it forms part of their collective agreement through the player's association.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:
@Tim seems crazy. Is that legal?
Entirely - it forms part of their collective agreement through the player's association.
So, how can they turn down the pay cut? If you're collectively contracted, and the collective decide on a pay cut, don't you go the same way?
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@nzzp These are unusual circumstances. I don't know the ins and outs of it either, but if the RUPA agreements cover a percentage of RA's income pie as guaranteed for the player pool, and the pie suddenly shrinks, then what other options are there?
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@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:
@Tim seems crazy. Is that legal?
Entirely - it forms part of their collective agreement through the player's association.
So, how can they turn down the pay cut? If you're collectively contracted, and the collective decide on a pay cut, don't you go the same way?
Exactly what they've done - you end the contractual relationship.
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@antipodean OK, that makes sense now.
So walk away. Wonder if there is a notice period that has to play out.
cheers fella
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@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:
@nzzp yup you can be stood down without pay due to CV, and the gov picks up the wages. But they've refused the gov wages too.
SA were up front and gave everyone 3 weeks to either hand their notice in, or accept cuts. Ozzie and NZ have players unions that negotiator on their behalf, dunno about SA.
That was a deal the Saffa players' unions negotiated, the 21 day clause.
