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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    my only association with Chess is that when i was playing rep rugby, and having away games around the state, we created the Ingham Chess Club to tell people where we were from, so we didn't besmirch the good name of our Union when we were acting like fuckwits. Pretty sure that club is still banned from a few backpackers.

    Also my son plays and really enjoys it

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    @mariner4life said in Post-Apocalyptic Sports:

    Also my son plays and really enjoys it

    He beats you, doesn't he 🙂

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    @nzzp said in Post-Apocalyptic Sports:

    @mariner4life said in Post-Apocalyptic Sports:

    Also my son plays and really enjoys it

    He beats you, doesn't he 🙂

    i haven't played him i don't think. He probably would, i haven't played in 25 years

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    @mariner4life said in Post-Apocalyptic Sports:

    @nzzp said in Post-Apocalyptic Sports:

    @mariner4life said in Post-Apocalyptic Sports:

    Also my son plays and really enjoys it

    He beats you, doesn't he 🙂

    i haven't played him i don't think. He probably would, i haven't played in 25 years

    I play with my boys in winter, it's great fun. The older is a good player, he beats me if I do something stupid. And since I have brain farts regularly (supporting the Blues, for instnace), it's often a good game 🙂

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    @nzzp Chesskids is good, both the English and Aussie businesses of that name have good programmes for kids (I'm not sure if they're connected or just came up with the same name independently).

    Agree that it's so much easier to learn online or with software/videos than via books like I did, although successful club play still requires learning a bit of theory, and while videos are best for most people, apparently some people learn better with written material and a real board and set.

    I also like that chess games can be notated (written down) so we can play through games from the 1500s.

    @mariner4life That's awesome! I've heard a few stories over the years about drinking sessions from actual chess teams and tournaments, so it's not as farfetched as it sounds (the concept of a chess team being rowdy while on the turps).

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    @nzzp said in Post-Apocalyptic Sports:

    Mods, feel free to move - I couldn't see anywhere pulling together what post C19 sports could look like

    Anyway, just reading the article below. Interesting, but they don't seem to raise the prospect of allowing people who have had C19 to slip the lockdown and attend sport.

    But yes, big crowds are a massive risk unless there's a vaccine, or it's properly eliminated in the community (NZ only option I think at the moment).

    Apr 10, 2020  /  MLB

    Bursting the Bubble: Why Sports Aren't Coming Back Soon

    Bursting the Bubble: Why Sports Aren't Coming Back Soon

    The NBA, NFL and MLB are dreaming up ways to play amid a pandemic, with talk of isolating players in Arizona or Las Vegas or maybe on the moon. It all sounds great, until you talk to people who actually know science.

    So if you've had it, you can't be a carrier?

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    @nzzp said in Post-Apocalyptic Sports:

    @mariner4life said in Post-Apocalyptic Sports:

    @nzzp said in Post-Apocalyptic Sports:

    @mariner4life said in Post-Apocalyptic Sports:

    Also my son plays and really enjoys it

    He beats you, doesn't he 🙂

    i haven't played him i don't think. He probably would, i haven't played in 25 years

    I play with my boys in winter, it's great fun. The older is a good player, he beats me if I do something stupid. And since I have brain farts regularly (supporting the Blues, for instnace), it's often a good game 🙂

    I played my 7yr old today. I let him win, but he still did 2 moves that I hadn't seen and I had to pretend I'd left open on purpose...

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    @Bones said in Post-Apocalyptic Sports:

    @nzzp said in Post-Apocalyptic Sports:

    Mods, feel free to move - I couldn't see anywhere pulling together what post C19 sports could look like

    Anyway, just reading the article below. Interesting, but they don't seem to raise the prospect of allowing people who have had C19 to slip the lockdown and attend sport.

    But yes, big crowds are a massive risk unless there's a vaccine, or it's properly eliminated in the community (NZ only option I think at the moment).

    Apr 10, 2020  /  MLB

    Bursting the Bubble: Why Sports Aren't Coming Back Soon

    Bursting the Bubble: Why Sports Aren't Coming Back Soon

    The NBA, NFL and MLB are dreaming up ways to play amid a pandemic, with talk of isolating players in Arizona or Las Vegas or maybe on the moon. It all sounds great, until you talk to people who actually know science.

    So if you've had it, you can't be a carrier?

    I don't think so. maybe some like @Kirwan knows though, or @canefan

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    @nzzp my understanding is you can't be a carrier. It's like the flu. You get it and it goes away, it would appear that you can contract it again. But the second and consecutive times your body will be more geared to fighting it as it will have developed antibodies. The reason why it's so bad at the moment is it is so different from other coronaviruses we have faced before (cold and flu) that our bodies can't deal with it

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    @Godder
    You might enjoy this documentary about the game Go - which was harder for AI to compete in than chess.

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    @Frank AlphaGo was very interesting to chess, and its successor, AlphaZero has dominated in computer chess (computer programme competitions are quite popular).

    I remember Kasparov losing the match against Deeper Blue (he beat Deep Blue in the first match, and IBM put in more money), and programmes started winning all the matches, so it was good to see Australian Grandmaster (GM), David Smerdon, crush a computer programme, Komodo, recently - https://www.chess.com/news/view/smerdon-beats-komodo-5-1-with-knight-odds . Granted, the computer was giving him a Knight, but still, good to see humans are still able to roughly keep up.

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    @Godder said in Post-Apocalyptic Sports:

    I remember Kasparov losing the match against Deeper Blue (he beat Deep Blue in the first match, and IBM put in more money),

    Not only that, but if I recall correctly, Deeper Blue was being recoded on the fly by chess Masters and 'tuned' to Kasparov to exploit his weaknesses (well, lack of strength).

    Since then computer power has just gone nuts, and frankly it's not even close any more is it 🙂 I for one, welcome our new chess computer overlords

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    Kasparov's complaint against IBM when he lost was that he suspected IBM changed the computer programming during the six-game rematch, after Kasparov won the first game in the rematch.

    And when he asked IBM to show him the programming logs IBM said they couldn't because it had been dismantled.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    When they get quantum computing working reliably, humans will be like a bug on a windscreen for games like chess.

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    @Kirwan said in Post-Apocalyptic Sports:

    When they get quantum computing working reliably, humans will be like a bug on a windscreen for games like chess.

    we already are!

    well, I am, and so are 99.999% of the population 🙂 Seriously though, humans can't compete with computers in theory games like Chess

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    The coolest/scariest thing about AI gaming was when they realised they should stop teaching it rules and just letting it learn for itself and it just took off.

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    @voodoo Yeah, when that had the AlphaGo masters scratching their heads about the new tactics that was huge.

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    Might be some tough choices ahead for sporting anti-vaxxers:

    Reuters  /  Apr 19, 2020  /  Sport

    Novak Djokovic's anti-vaccination stance may stop his return to tennis

    Novak Djokovic's anti-vaccination stance may stop his return to tennis

    Novak Djokovic says his opposition to vaccinations may get in the way of a return to competitive tennis

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    @Donsteppa said in Post-Apocalyptic Sports:

    Might be some tough choices ahead for sporting anti-vaxxers:

    Reuters  /  Apr 19, 2020  /  Sport

    Novak Djokovic's anti-vaccination stance may stop his return to tennis

    Novak Djokovic's anti-vaccination stance may stop his return to tennis

    Novak Djokovic says his opposition to vaccinations may get in the way of a return to competitive tennis

    If you're a competitor you'd be hoping he sticks to his principles.

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