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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Virgil all travel related - still no community transmission
Travelling does seem to be the riskiest move for kiwis.
We just had the same discussion with our son and partner, who cr=urrently feel that they are safer taking precautions in London than going to airports, planes, transiting etc to get home. Add in the real possibility that you could get stranded part way with no direct flights to NZ from UK and the argument makes sense (at the moment) -
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Hopefully this is a rapidly spreading urban myth - but I have heard from three sources in the last 30 minutes that NZ is going into lockdown from tomorrow.
I find it hard to credit TBH unless they know its out in the community and they think they've lost control.
Otherwise it sounds like an alarming and unnecessary escalation.
Although the above article has Jacinda dismissing it, I'm hearing the same - probably not a complete lockdown but I suspect they may close schools next week given it's close to the holidays anyway, I think that would make sense.
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I guess closing schools and shutting down businesses is a bit like going off for rain in cricket. You delay going off for as long as you can, because once you go off it needs to have stopped raining and dried out before you can come back on.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat and how many of those are dumb arses who should have not got on the plane at all or isolated on touch down.
The incubation period is the hard one. You can have no symptoms yet be carrying so no reason not to follow advice and get home.
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Some of these people would not have had any symptoms while travelling or when they arrived in NZ. Two of the new cases yesterday arrived 10-14 days ago. That's why the self-isolation is so important because if you do test positive you aren't interacting with other people in the interim.
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@Crucial but a good portion of them either didn't feel well or just got off plane and carried on like normal, particularly those in the past week or so.
Apparently NZ travel advice raised to highest level, do not travel
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Indoor gatherings of 100 or more banned now, but does not apply to schools, workplaces, supermarkets, or public transport. Looks like they're trying to stagger the response as much as possible.
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@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Hopefully this is a rapidly spreading urban myth - but I have heard from three sources in the last 30 minutes that NZ is going into lockdown from tomorrow.
I find it hard to credit TBH unless they know its out in the community and they think they've lost control.
Otherwise it sounds like an alarming and unnecessary escalation.
Although the above article has Jacinda dismissing it, I'm hearing the same - probably not a complete lockdown but I suspect they may close schools next week given it's close to the holidays anyway, I think that would make sense.
Listening to Boris Johnson today I see that they are closing schools except for students whose parents are involved in critical industry ie Nurses/doctors. That makes a hell of a lot of sense to me, I hope NZ follows course with that one.
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@chimoaus said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Rembrandt I bet those kids are spewing at their parents occupation, mates at home playing xbox and they at school doing Math.
Ha yep, Would be some bruuutal morning fights I imagine.
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With the usual caveat about sauces... have now heard via 3 different sauces that lockdown, aside from essential businesses, is a few days away. I presume it is in the pipeline as a possible strategy but any word on timing is pure rumour.
Tried to point that out to the sauces but meh, hard to keep it to yourself if you think you've got the inside word. Those were from local govt, defence force,
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@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
With the usual caveat about sauces... have now heard via 3 different sauces that lockdown, aside from essential businesses, is a few days away. I presume it is in the pipeline as a possible strategy but any word on timing is pure rumour.
Tried to point that out to the sauces but meh, hard to keep it to yourself if you think you've got the inside word. Those were from local govt, defence force,
and education bottles btw 😁I have been pretty reluctant to criticise the govt, but I think it would be a disaster to prematurely do a lockdown, surely they wouldnt be that dumb?
So they lock down for 2 weeks, devastate businesses that would otherwise be operating.... in 2 weeks the cases have gone from 28 to 200.... yay? Then what? 2 more weeks? some more companies collapse... cases go from 200 to 1000, then what? 2 more weeks? How many companies would be left after a couple of months of lockdown? Fuck.All -
If they lock down the border to tourists and enforce compulsory testing on Kiwis coming home it should keep a lid on spread of the virus (there has been no reporting of widespread person to person transmission from within the country so far) and allow business to continue I would have thought?
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Mrs CF just said they have closed the border to non residents or non citizens
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12318284
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
With the usual caveat about sauces... have now heard via 3 different sauces that lockdown, aside from essential businesses, is a few days away. I presume it is in the pipeline as a possible strategy but any word on timing is pure rumour.
Tried to point that out to the sauces but meh, hard to keep it to yourself if you think you've got the inside word. Those were from local govt, defence force,
and education bottles btw 😁I have been pretty reluctant to criticise the govt, but I think it would be a disaster to prematurely do a lockdown, surely they wouldnt be that dumb?
So they lock down for 2 weeks, devastate businesses that would otherwise be operating.... in 2 weeks the cases have gone from 28 to 200.... yay? Then what? 2 more weeks? some more companies collapse... cases go from 200 to 1000, then what? 2 more weeks? How many companies would be left after a couple of months of lockdown? Fuck.AllThat's the risk alright. At least with other countries there is already multiple community epicentres so the spread is inevitable and the theorised immunity should come. I am not sure that NZ is there yet and it would be a case of jumping out of the frypan and into the fire.
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I'm kind of surprised people in NZ are so confident there is no community transmission. Nearly all countries started the same, all from overseas people, stay calm no drama. It has been shown to be very contagious and you have had 28 confirmed people all with the opportunity to community transfer. My money is on it spreading in NZ just like everywhere else.
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