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65 days is unprecedented. Won't be widely available for at least a year, but perhaps they can roll it out sooner for high risk patients?
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@No-Quarter They (the authorities) are already dialling back on that Imperial College report.
It's also a very long read and as is usually the case people skim read and take their favoured viewpoints as take aways.
I agree with MR, twitter is the Hell that we have constructed for ourselves.
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Not sure if already posted but my sis in Wellington sent me this: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12317669
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@No-Quarter That is fear propaganda if ever I've read it.
8-15% of people over 70 will die in the US. Well, what percentage of them would die on any normal year?
Twitter, once again, proving itself to be the worst fucking thing on this entire planet.
As someone in The Spectator wrote, about social media after a rumour the Tories' Coronavirus strategy was to deliberately kill 20% of the UK population went, uh, viral on the weekend....
"Right now, as I have argued already, social media has the power to disseminate baseless fears, incite panic, and do tangible damage to public health or public order. Running an unedited, unregulated instant publishing platform in the middle of a global pandemic is like handing an AR-15 and a bottle of Jack Daniel’s to a chimpanzee and hoping for the best".
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Not sure if already posted but my sis in Wellington sent me this: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12317669
Yesterday;s presser explained things a little differently.
There was/has been no change in strategy, though the timing has changed based on new data. And the "suppression" in the Imperial College report referred to suppression of the infection peak,
Read today that Korea, who have a big testing and isolation strategy, is seeing the disease flare-up in a number of places and if it continues, may change their approach.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
65 days is unprecedented. Won't be widely available for at least a year, but perhaps they can roll it out sooner for high risk patients?
Possibly nothing to lose. Perhaps the risk and value criteria will change quite quickly in this crisis.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Read today that Korea, who have a big testing and isolation strategy, is seeing the disease flare-up in a number of places and if it continues, may change their approach.
I hadn't heard that. I thought Sth Korea had things under control
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@Rembrandt said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Well Woolworths has stopped online shopping. Expected, but was hoping to maybe squeeze one more normal shop in. Now shopping requires battling potentially diseased crowds.
Why bother, there's nothing on the shelves.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Read today that Korea, who have a big testing and isolation strategy, is seeing the disease flare-up in a number of places and if it continues, may change their approach.
I hadn't heard that. I thought Sth Korea had things under control
Asia isn't looking as good as was thought, sadly. Taiwan has also seen a big increase.
The number of coronavirus cases has spiked across Asia, crushing hopes that the region had contained the outbreak.
Officials in South Korea, Taiwan and parts of China and south-east Asia are rushing through new measures after a second wave of new infections following weeks of declines.
Experts say the sudden increase in cases has revealed the limits of both China’s sweeping lockdown of citizens and of the massive public testing and social distancing campaigns rolled out across Asia.
In South Korea, which has suffered Asia’s worst outbreak outside China, the emergence of new clusters and the risk of imported cases has rattled officials.
Authorities in Daegu — South Korea’s fourth-largest city where mass testing and isolation had led to a big reduction in new cases — are now increasing inspections at high-risk facilities after the emergence of new clusters at nursing homes and churches.
“We believe the next two to three weeks will be very crucial,” said Yoon Tae-ho, a senior government health official.*
https://www.ft.com/content/859e9336-68db-11ea-a3c9-1fe6fedcca75
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@Victor-Meldrew Suggestions are that it is mainly people returning from abroad?
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All the restrictions came into effect here yesterday at noon. The nightly news showing people still not taking it seriously police were berating people in the street sending people home and closing shops, that thought the rules didn't apply to them.
Here in the countryside its not as much of a disruption but still noticeably less traffic around today.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@Victor-Meldrew Suggestions are that it is mainly people returning from abroad?
Make you wonder how effective the border testing, tracking and isolation strategy Taiwan and Korea have using, is in reality, I guess.
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Been generally impressed with politicians here in the UK, asking sensible questions in Parliament and rising to the occasion. But there's always an exception....
*Andy Carter, a Conservative, asks for an assurance that the government will do all it can to save lives.
Yes, says Johnson.*
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Been generally impressed with politicians here in the UK, asking sensible questions in Parliament and rising to the occasion. But there's always an exception....
*Andy Carter, a Conservative, asks for an assurance that the government will do all it can to save lives.
Yes, says Johnson.*
Likely a set up, saves Boris from having to give such assurances to Corbyn.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Been generally impressed with politicians here in the UK, asking sensible questions in Parliament and rising to the occasion. But there's always an exception....
*Andy Carter, a Conservative, asks for an assurance that the government will do all it can to save lives.
Yes, says Johnson.*
Likely a set up, saves Boris from having to give such assurances to Corbyn.
No, he's just thick or wanted his day in the sun in an empty chamber.
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"Always look on the bright side of life..."
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
"Always look on the bright side of life..."
Wrong thread. Move it to the "positives" thread".
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@Victor-Meldrew I hear EastEnders has stopped filming too.
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Wales and Scotland to close schools from Friday, many of my friends here in Midlands have already received emails from their schools saying closing Friday so looks like Boris is following suit.
How staffing the nhs now will be interesting!
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