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@R-L said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Rembrandt said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
What the fuck is Boris doing?
Herd immunity is all very fine. But containment is important because too many people getting sick at the same time will overwhelm your health system. Doctors in Italy are being forced to choose who gets to live and who gets to die because there aren’t enough ventilators available, yet they appear to be encouraging the spread. History will judge if Boris’ gamble pays off
Put in the harshest terms they are sacrificing people now in order to save lives later. In theory Britain could be the first European country through the other side of this, risky af. But at this point no one can say what the best long term strategy will be.
It makes little sense mate. At the height, South Korea were getting almost 900 new cases a day. They are down to 74.
But the situation is fluid. Just googled a UK website to see what is being said. The government is discouraging mass gatherings etc, is that a strategic change or have I merely failed to read exactly what he said the first time? (Entirely possible)
Am. I right in believing S Korea was testing more though, we in the UK aren't testing all suspected cases anymore which will always make our numbers appear lower surely?
Tested like crazy. Not just lab tests, those laser point and shoot thermometers too. Someone I know went to Singapore really early on. She was getting thermo checked everywhere and suspicious people were being more closely checked
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
It makes sense to me that a thorough testing regime assists - the earlier you can let people know, the sooner they self isolate.
This I expect will be the biggest difference for the USA if what I read about the lack of testing is correct.
I think you have to assume everyone including yourself has it. And behave accordingly
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@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@R-L said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Rembrandt said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
What the fuck is Boris doing?
Herd immunity is all very fine. But containment is important because too many people getting sick at the same time will overwhelm your health system. Doctors in Italy are being forced to choose who gets to live and who gets to die because there aren’t enough ventilators available, yet they appear to be encouraging the spread. History will judge if Boris’ gamble pays off
Put in the harshest terms they are sacrificing people now in order to save lives later. In theory Britain could be the first European country through the other side of this, risky af. But at this point no one can say what the best long term strategy will be.
It makes little sense mate. At the height, South Korea were getting almost 900 new cases a day. They are down to 74.
But the situation is fluid. Just googled a UK website to see what is being said. The government is discouraging mass gatherings etc, is that a strategic change or have I merely failed to read exactly what he said the first time? (Entirely possible)
Am. I right in believing S Korea was testing more though, we in the UK aren't testing all suspected cases anymore which will always make our numbers appear lower surely?
Tested like crazy. Not just lab tests, those laser point and shoot thermometers too. Someone I know went to Singapore really early on. She was getting thermo checked everywhere and suspicious people were being more closely checked
makes sense as the best way to go, not only helps identify those infected but if you come up as negative it puts your mind at ease. Which will help to a degree with the panic etc
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@R-L said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@R-L said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Rembrandt said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
What the fuck is Boris doing?
Herd immunity is all very fine. But containment is important because too many people getting sick at the same time will overwhelm your health system. Doctors in Italy are being forced to choose who gets to live and who gets to die because there aren’t enough ventilators available, yet they appear to be encouraging the spread. History will judge if Boris’ gamble pays off
Put in the harshest terms they are sacrificing people now in order to save lives later. In theory Britain could be the first European country through the other side of this, risky af. But at this point no one can say what the best long term strategy will be.
I hate the uncertainty of this, I feel like we are guinea pigs.
It runs against everyone who is beating this thing. My advice is stay away from people. Clean hands lots. Living in population dense areas you might wanna get a mask or some sort of barrier for droplets
I'm pretty much in isolation at the moment due to daughter having a cold with cough, the timing of a 4 yo. The vibe at the moment amongst people I know is that everyone wants to isolate, it's scary. People don't want their children going to school but at the same time I hate the idea of elderly cooped up alone.
One thing that helps is we have the technology now that we didn't in previous crisis's. Food delivery (hoping restaurants take advantage of uber eats), messaging, skyping. We have a Melbourne covid19 community facebook group where people ask for assistance and volunteer to help.
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@Virgil said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@R-L said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Rembrandt said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
What the fuck is Boris doing?
Herd immunity is all very fine. But containment is important because too many people getting sick at the same time will overwhelm your health system. Doctors in Italy are being forced to choose who gets to live and who gets to die because there aren’t enough ventilators available, yet they appear to be encouraging the spread. History will judge if Boris’ gamble pays off
Put in the harshest terms they are sacrificing people now in order to save lives later. In theory Britain could be the first European country through the other side of this, risky af. But at this point no one can say what the best long term strategy will be.
It makes little sense mate. At the height, South Korea were getting almost 900 new cases a day. They are down to 74.
But the situation is fluid. Just googled a UK website to see what is being said. The government is discouraging mass gatherings etc, is that a strategic change or have I merely failed to read exactly what he said the first time? (Entirely possible)
Am. I right in believing S Korea was testing more though, we in the UK aren't testing all suspected cases anymore which will always make our numbers appear lower surely?
Tested like crazy. Not just lab tests, those laser point and shoot thermometers too. Someone I know went to Singapore really early on. She was getting thermo checked everywhere and suspicious people were being more closely checked
makes sense as the best way to go, not only helps identify those infected but if you come up as negative it puts your mind at ease. Which will help to a degree with the panic etc
I wonder if these work on people? Seems an easy blunt test to weed out obvious cases for further inspection
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@Virgil said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@R-L said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Rembrandt said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
What the fuck is Boris doing?
Herd immunity is all very fine. But containment is important because too many people getting sick at the same time will overwhelm your health system. Doctors in Italy are being forced to choose who gets to live and who gets to die because there aren’t enough ventilators available, yet they appear to be encouraging the spread. History will judge if Boris’ gamble pays off
Put in the harshest terms they are sacrificing people now in order to save lives later. In theory Britain could be the first European country through the other side of this, risky af. But at this point no one can say what the best long term strategy will be.
It makes little sense mate. At the height, South Korea were getting almost 900 new cases a day. They are down to 74.
But the situation is fluid. Just googled a UK website to see what is being said. The government is discouraging mass gatherings etc, is that a strategic change or have I merely failed to read exactly what he said the first time? (Entirely possible)
Am. I right in believing S Korea was testing more though, we in the UK aren't testing all suspected cases anymore which will always make our numbers appear lower surely?
Tested like crazy. Not just lab tests, those laser point and shoot thermometers too. Someone I know went to Singapore really early on. She was getting thermo checked everywhere and suspicious people were being more closely checked
makes sense as the best way to go, not only helps identify those infected but if you come up as negative it puts your mind at ease. Which will help to a degree with the panic etc
Nah, just means you'll think you're yet to get it.
Need a test that says you've already had it, didn't notice, you're awesome. -
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@R-L said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Rembrandt said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
What the fuck is Boris doing?
Herd immunity is all very fine. But containment is important because too many people getting sick at the same time will overwhelm your health system. Doctors in Italy are being forced to choose who gets to live and who gets to die because there aren’t enough ventilators available, yet they appear to be encouraging the spread. History will judge if Boris’ gamble pays off
Put in the harshest terms they are sacrificing people now in order to save lives later. In theory Britain could be the first European country through the other side of this, risky af. But at this point no one can say what the best long term strategy will be.
It makes little sense mate. At the height, South Korea were getting almost 900 new cases a day. They are down to 74.
But the situation is fluid. Just googled a UK website to see what is being said. The government is discouraging mass gatherings etc, is that a strategic change or have I merely failed to read exactly what he said the first time? (Entirely possible)
Am. I right in believing S Korea was testing more though, we in the UK aren't testing all suspected cases anymore which will always make our numbers appear lower surely?
Tested like crazy. Not just lab tests, those laser point and shoot thermometers too. Someone I know went to Singapore really early on. She was getting thermo checked everywhere and suspicious people were being more closely checked
Well Chris Whitty said earlier they want to collect data on people who have had the virus and been asymptomatic, how will they find these people now if they are only testing inpatients? Obviously health care staff are a big group that should be tested. I think they genuinely want to learn as much as they can about this disease but it all feels too risky. I feel like we should be testing way more people.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Rembrandt said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
What the fuck is Boris doing?
Herd immunity is all very fine. But containment is important because too many people getting sick at the same time will overwhelm your health system. Doctors in Italy are being forced to choose who gets to live and who gets to die because there aren’t enough ventilators available, yet they appear to be encouraging the spread. History will judge if Boris’ gamble pays off
Put in the harshest terms they are sacrificing people now in order to save lives later. In theory Britain could be the first European country through the other side of this, risky af. But at this point no one can say what the best long term strategy will be.
It makes little sense mate. At the height, South Korea were getting almost 900 new cases a day. They are down to 74.
But the situation is fluid. Just googled a UK website to see what is being said. The government is discouraging mass gatherings etc, is that a strategic change or have I merely failed to read exactly what he said the first time? (Entirely possible)
Yep Korea has done amazing things but its hard to say if the same can be replicated in the UK. A lot of factors to consider. Their mass testing clearly helped them, I wonder if the UK has access to that many? Just hope they are getting some advice from there.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Virgil said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@R-L said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Rembrandt said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
What the fuck is Boris doing?
Herd immunity is all very fine. But containment is important because too many people getting sick at the same time will overwhelm your health system. Doctors in Italy are being forced to choose who gets to live and who gets to die because there aren’t enough ventilators available, yet they appear to be encouraging the spread. History will judge if Boris’ gamble pays off
Put in the harshest terms they are sacrificing people now in order to save lives later. In theory Britain could be the first European country through the other side of this, risky af. But at this point no one can say what the best long term strategy will be.
It makes little sense mate. At the height, South Korea were getting almost 900 new cases a day. They are down to 74.
But the situation is fluid. Just googled a UK website to see what is being said. The government is discouraging mass gatherings etc, is that a strategic change or have I merely failed to read exactly what he said the first time? (Entirely possible)
Am. I right in believing S Korea was testing more though, we in the UK aren't testing all suspected cases anymore which will always make our numbers appear lower surely?
Tested like crazy. Not just lab tests, those laser point and shoot thermometers too. Someone I know went to Singapore really early on. She was getting thermo checked everywhere and suspicious people were being more closely checked
makes sense as the best way to go, not only helps identify those infected but if you come up as negative it puts your mind at ease. Which will help to a degree with the panic etc
I wonder if these work on people? Seems an easy blunt test to weed out obvious cases for further inspection
From what I understand even the ones used at airports have an extremely high failure rate. More for show.
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@Rembrandt said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Virgil said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@R-L said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Rembrandt said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
What the fuck is Boris doing?
Herd immunity is all very fine. But containment is important because too many people getting sick at the same time will overwhelm your health system. Doctors in Italy are being forced to choose who gets to live and who gets to die because there aren’t enough ventilators available, yet they appear to be encouraging the spread. History will judge if Boris’ gamble pays off
Put in the harshest terms they are sacrificing people now in order to save lives later. In theory Britain could be the first European country through the other side of this, risky af. But at this point no one can say what the best long term strategy will be.
It makes little sense mate. At the height, South Korea were getting almost 900 new cases a day. They are down to 74.
But the situation is fluid. Just googled a UK website to see what is being said. The government is discouraging mass gatherings etc, is that a strategic change or have I merely failed to read exactly what he said the first time? (Entirely possible)
Am. I right in believing S Korea was testing more though, we in the UK aren't testing all suspected cases anymore which will always make our numbers appear lower surely?
Tested like crazy. Not just lab tests, those laser point and shoot thermometers too. Someone I know went to Singapore really early on. She was getting thermo checked everywhere and suspicious people were being more closely checked
makes sense as the best way to go, not only helps identify those infected but if you come up as negative it puts your mind at ease. Which will help to a degree with the panic etc
I wonder if these work on people? Seems an easy blunt test to weed out obvious cases for further inspection
From what I understand even the ones used at airports have an extremely high failure rate. More for show.
I guess it might help increase awareness in people. Which is a worthwhile thing. There is no quick fix coming anytime soon. Its about everyone trying to do all the little things
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@R-L said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
You lot told me to vote for Boris
If you voted for JC your tax would currently be 90%.
Your choice.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
What the fuck is Boris doing?
Herd immunity is all very fine. But containment is important because too many people getting sick at the same time will overwhelm your health system. Doctors in Italy are being forced to choose who gets to live and who gets to die because there aren’t enough ventilators available, yet they appear to be encouraging the spread. History will judge if Boris’ gamble pays off
You are a bit late for this view. He’s changed tack in quite a big way today.
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
What the fuck is Boris doing?
Herd immunity is all very fine. But containment is important because too many people getting sick at the same time will overwhelm your health system. Doctors in Italy are being forced to choose who gets to live and who gets to die because there aren’t enough ventilators available, yet they appear to be encouraging the spread. History will judge if Boris’ gamble pays off
You are a bit late for this view. He’s changed tack in quite a big way today.
Has he really though?
I saw some video with water and a bucket etc, that explained the UK approach and he seems to be following that. -
@Baron-Silas-Greenback he may not have said it directly but everything has changed since 5pm today.
He is massively pro business so I don’t think he will ever order anything closed. But everybody seems to making the decisions now in-line with most of the planet.
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So for anyone following my family drama regarding this virus. My brother and his wife have just touched down in Auckland after the honeymoon from hell.
They left NZ on Thursday for Madrid, escaped there a less than a day before total lockdown, got to London Saturday night and thankfully following my advice rather than their agent booked the first available flight back to NZ via Dubai.
You kiwis will not be happy to hear that the plane had a lot of people on who aren't kiwis who were sick with some sort of a cold..oh and apparently really easy getting into NZ. Rest of their honeymoon will be in isolation.
In a weeks time they might just see this not so much as an unlucky honeymoon but really a very lucky bullet dodge.