Facebook - Time To Die?
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="552380" data-time="1452745521"><p>
I look forward to posting inspirational quotes from Karl Marx on his wall.</p></blockquote><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="552378" data-time="1452745233"><p>
jegga, you need to get on book face so we can share picture of food, inspirational quotes, porn and beer on your wall</p></blockquote><br>
Oh look, two more reasons to stay away from Facebook. Nepia if ever join you can look forward to an endless stream of pics and quotes from Magaret Thatcher, Judith Collins and Cameron Slater . -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="552373" data-time="1452741158"><p>
With good reason too, of that 10% it'd be interesting to see how many are actually committed to what they post or just want to appear " down with the kids".<br>
If god forbid I ever had the misfortune to be put in charge of the Labour Party my first move would be to make every mp shut down their twitter account and start visiting their electorates to see what people are actually concerned about. Twitters not much of a reflection of the real world .</p></blockquote>
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Almost all the Labour MPs are electorate MPs, so they spend plenty of time in the electorates with their ears to the ground. -
<p>but do they actually listen?</p>
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<p>Almost all the Labour MPs are electorate MPs, so they spend plenty of time in the electorates with their ears to the ground.</p>
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<p>Their leader is a list mp and Ardern whos touted as the next in line for the throne is a list mp too. If they have their ears to the ground they aren't doing much with what they hear,The only thing they achieved last year was to stop scrapping in public, about time too.</p> -
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<p>but do they actually listen?</p>
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<p>Is it physically possible to have your ear to the ground while your head is in your arse?</p> -
They have 4/32 list MPs, and the other 28 are electorate MPs.<br><br>
The Christchurch MPs are active helping constituents with rebuild issues, and most of an electorate MP's lot when they're not in Parliament (regardless of party) is assisting constituents with one issue or another.<br><br>
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<p>They have 4/32 list MPs, and the other 28 are electorate MPs.<br><br>
The Christchurch MPs are active helping constituents with rebuild issues, and most of an electorate MP's lot when they're not in Parliament (regardless of party) is assisting constituents with one issue or another.<br><br>
Yes, they listen. They are very focused on that,<strong> as the election result showed they have a lot of listening to do.</strong></p>
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<p>Yep and to real people not twitter or facebook loons. </p> -
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<p>Almost all the Labour MPs are electorate MPs, so they spend plenty of time in the electorates with their ears to the ground.</p>
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<p>Our local MP is a Labour MP (Stuart Nash). I didn't vote for him but have now met him a few times and he's a decent, down to earth bloke. If the whole party was like him they might develop some policies I'd vote for, I'm not sure he even buys half of their existing ones.</p> -
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Our local MP is a Labour MP (Stuart Nash). I didn't vote for him but have now met him a few times and he's a decent, down to earth bloke. If the whole party was like him they might develop some policies I'd vote for, I'm not sure he even buys half of their existing ones.</p></blockquote>
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Labour is in the middle of a full policy overhaul currently, so it won't surprise me if a lot of current policies are dumped or heavily edited. Some of it could certainly use it... <br><br>
Labour policy is being developed from the ground up i.e. members put forward remits at electorate meetings, regional conferences then discussed and voted on the remits, national conference did the same on the remits which received favorable votes at regional conferences, and the members also elect a policy council which will then take the remits and develop detailed policy from those.<br><br>
MPs don't control that process, but they do have a lot of influence at each step, so if Stuart Nash dislikes a particular policy, he has had, and will have more, opportunities to make that known. -
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Our local MP is a Labour MP (Stuart Nash). I didn't vote for him but have now met him a few times and he's a decent, down to earth bloke. If the whole party was like him they might develop some policies I'd vote for, I'm not sure he even buys half of their existing ones.</p></blockquote>
Nash is an interesting one, he doesn't seem to have time for a lot of labours behaviour <a class="bbc_url" href="http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2015/10/31/tdb-guest-blog-project-stuart-nash-the-most-pressing-issue-in-nz-right-now/">http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2015/10/31/tdb-guest-blog-project-stuart-nash-the-most-pressing-issue-in-nz-right-now/</a><br><br>
Here's Greg Presland slagging him off, Nash replies in the comments section <a class="bbc_url" href="http://thestandard.org.nz/dear-stuart-nash/">http://thestandard.org.nz/dear-stuart-nash/</a><br>
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So I was thinking about how with facebook getting on more and more peoples tits how about a feature that would give the ability to differentiate what is blocked on your feed, so instead of blocking Megan entirely you choose to block shitty quotes, health tips and anything political. I'm still happy to the odd photo of the family or whats been going on on the farm. Surely that wouldn't be out of the realms of facebook's technical ability.
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<p>Labour is in the middle of a full policy overhaul currently, so it won't surprise me if a lot of current policies are dumped or heavily edited. Some of it could certainly use it...<br><br>
Labour policy is being developed from the ground up i.e. members put forward remits at electorate meetings, regional conferences then discussed and voted on the remits, national conference did the same on the remits which received favorable votes at regional conferences, and the members also elect a policy council which will then take the remits and develop detailed policy from those.<br><br>
MPs don't control that process, but they do have a lot of influence at each step, so if Stuart Nash dislikes a particular policy, he has had, and will have more, opportunities to make that known.</p>
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<p>And that is precisely the problem. MP's should decide policy. You just said how they have the ear to the ground and are listening to what the people want.... and then they don't control the process over policy. Currently the activist base in Labour holds way to much power and pushes agendas that the voting public simply dont like.</p>
<p>MP's should decide policy based on input from members and other stakeholders. Not the other way around. That is how you win elections, and to make all the policy relevant you need to win elections.</p>
<p>The activist base decided on a leader the MP's didnt want. And now they are going to push policy that the electorate doesnt want.</p>
<p>TPP is a classic case of the morons running the asylum. Labour was always about free trade, sticking to international agreements and foreign trade. Now they are just repeating the brainless mutterings of the far left base. Little has already stated he will beak some of TPP clauses.. wait to see how that brainless idea gets exposed in an election campaign.</p>
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<p>Labour is stuffed as long as it is run by a far left activist base. </p> -
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<p>So I was thinking about how with facebook getting on more and more peoples tits how about a feature that would give the ability to differentiate what is blocked on your feed, so instead of blocking Megan entirely you choose to block shitty quotes, health tips and anything political. I'm still happy to the odd photo of the family or whats been going on on the farm. Surely that wouldn't be out of the realms of facebook's technical ability.</p>
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<p>Unless Megan tags it then yeah that is almost impossible. How exactly do you expect FB to decide what is political?</p> -
<p>It has that "Hide post - see fewer posts like this" feature so you don't have to fully block a person. But I have no idea how sophisticated that is, it'd be easy to block particular sites/pages that people are sharing but beyond that ....???</p>
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Unless Megan tags it then yeah that is almost impossible. How exactly do you expect FB to decide what is political?</p></blockquote>
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I'm thinking something along the lines of detecting political keywords qnd then blocking from there, as for memes and inspirational quotes maybe some ocr to pick up text over image, it won't be perfect of course but it just needs to be an improvement. -
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<p>I'm thinking something along the lines of detecting political keywords qnd then blocking from there, as for memes and inspirational quotes maybe some ocr to pick up text over image, it won't be perfect of course but it just needs to be an improvement.</p>
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<p>Really? What keywords? Who monitors it and maintains it? What about political key words in some countries and not others?</p>
<p>You are quite correct ti wont be perfect... it would be a shambles. And if by 'improvement' you mean complete invention of AI .. then yeah.</p>
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<p>As for memes.. how is a street sign much different from a meme quote in a message? </p> -
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<p>It has that "Hide post - see fewer posts like this" feature so you don't have to fully block a person. But I have no idea how sophisticated that is, it'd be easy to block particular sites/pages that people are sharing but beyond that ....???</p>
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<p>That works as the posts/ads are categorised. But they are categorised based on type and poster rather than any real analysis of content.</p> -
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<p>Nash is an interesting one, he doesn't seem to have time for a lot of labours behaviour <a class="bbc_url" href="http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2015/10/31/tdb-guest-blog-project-stuart-nash-the-most-pressing-issue-in-nz-right-now/">http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2015/10/31/tdb-guest-blog-project-stuart-nash-the-most-pressing-issue-in-nz-right-now/</a><br><br>
Here's Greg Presland slagging him off, Nash replies in the comments section <a class="bbc_url" href="http://thestandard.org.nz/dear-stuart-nash/">http://thestandard.org.nz/dear-stuart-nash/</a><br>
Particularly liked the comparison to a doc toilet.</p>
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<p>The comments on that Standard blog were pretty amusing. Typical worthless "social justice" scum.</p> -
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Watching them tie themselves in knots trying minimise Assange being wanted for sex offences was hilarious , Penny Bright in particular shamed herself . Classic example of a social media echo chamber, if you disagree with a narrow band of thought you get bullied then banned. -
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Really? What keywords? Who monitors it and maintains it? What about political key words in some countries and not others?<br>
You are quite correct ti wont be perfect... it would be a shambles. And if by 'improvement' you mean complete invention of AI .. then yeah.<br><br>
As for memes.. how is a street sign much different from a meme quote in a message?</p></blockquote>
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Ha well it won't get done with that attitude! Keywords could be maintained by facebook much like how mailmarshal and gmail categorisation works perhaps giving certain weighting to words and combinations. If what us TSFers are experiencing with facebook now is symptomatic of a global frustration with facebook then it would be in their interest to come up with something. As for street signs I think I think I'm willing to miss out on the odd cleverly vandalised hammer-time STOP sign if that could mean I get a whole lot less David Wolfe in my life!