Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020
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@Bovidae said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
A little emotional at the end when Doull and Smith were summing up the last 20 years of home cricket on Sky.
They've done a great job. Will be interesting to see what Spark's coverage will be like. Do they even have a broadcasting arm to provide coverage?
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I can only take one positive from the end of RadioSport coverage, the rest is all rage and despair, but I have almost certainly heard the last of Garth "Drawn out irrelevant personal anecdote" Galloway. He had all those years of listening to his father and didn't learn one damn thing.
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@Donsteppa said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Can't believe that was potentially the last game with Smithy, Coney, and Waddle on the airwaves.
If cricket isn't on radio next summer, it is a massive loss for the game in this country. Cricket is well suited to that format and it keeps people interested who wouldn't sit down and watch a whole day's play.
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@hydro11 said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Donsteppa said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Can't believe that was potentially the last game with Smithy, Coney, and Waddle on the airwaves.
If cricket isn't on radio next summer, it is a massive loss for the game in this country. Cricket is well suited to that format and it keeps people interested who wouldn't sit down and watch a whole day's play.
I agree.
But, we're really in the minority. NZME were saying it costs them to host it - so they don't want to pay; NZC want money for it. I don't get it - if I was the ICC, I'd offer free online cricket commentary to anyone who wants it.
Radio Sport started as just a cricket station in summer. Ironic that they're finishing as a 'sport' radio station without the cricket. Huh.
I hope most of the good commentators get picked up by whoever does it. Particularly Wads - what a legend. he used to have to singlehandedly commentate test matches ball by ball... so damn difficult, and he makes it soudn easy.
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@nzzp said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@hydro11 said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Donsteppa said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Can't believe that was potentially the last game with Smithy, Coney, and Waddle on the airwaves.
If cricket isn't on radio next summer, it is a massive loss for the game in this country. Cricket is well suited to that format and it keeps people interested who wouldn't sit down and watch a whole day's play.
I agree.
But, we're really in the minority. NZME were saying it costs them to host it - so they don't want to pay; NZC want money for it. I don't get it - if I was the ICC, I'd offer free online cricket commentary to anyone who wants it.
I'll be very annoyed if the only ways to access cricket next year are online.
For those who live in the country and don't have the option to get fucking Spark's broadcast, we should at least have the option of traditional radio.
Especially, when I get in the car, I want to be able to tune into the cricket.
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Anyone know how it will affect Black Cap coverage in Aus?
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@Bovidae said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@nzzp NZC has shown their greed with choosing Spark over Sky and not renewing Radio Sport's contract. It's all about the money.
Disagree with the first one, but not the second. Radio is such a small part of their income, it's worth supporting the coverage. This appears shortsighted - but we'll have to wait and see what the coverage is like.
Frankly, our entire domestic cricket calendar is paid for by the inbound Indian tour. If the rest of the cricket is on Sky or Spark I honestly don't care; if free to air carried sport still, then there's a good argument for compromising on money to increase the reach. That boat has well and truly sailed now, though,a nd I'm not even sure the 'yoof' watch TV any more. So fine, just take the fattest cheque, and see what happens.
Also, I think they got the pricing wrong for the indian tour. It was over 60 bucks for a lousy T20, just not great value at all for my perspective, particularly finishing around midnight. Now I'm just old and grumpy
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In other cricket news - the White ferns have messed up the T20 World cup and been eliminated.
Lost to both Australia and India by about 4 runs apiece - by leaving too much to do late.
In both instances, Amelia Kerr and Katey Martin launched strong late charges, but were left with too much to do.
To be fair Martin helped leave herself too much to do and taking 10 runs off the last 2 deliveries was closing the door after the horse had bolted.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Anyone know how it will affect Black Cap coverage in Aus?
I think overseas rights are always negotiated with the hosts on a tour by tour basis. So Sky could cover it all still (or Spark, or TV3)...
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@nzzp said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Crazy-Horse said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Anyone know how it will affect Black Cap coverage in Aus?
I think overseas rights are always negotiated with the hosts on a tour by tour basis. So Sky could cover it all still (or Spark, or TV3)...
I'm pretty sure Sky still has rights to all the overseas Black Caps fixtures.
But, I think @Crazy-Horse is asking who in Oz will carry the Spark broadcasts. No idea.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Anyone know how it will affect Black Cap coverage in Aus?
Sky TV still have the overseas rights. So if you are in NZ and want to watch cricket at home and abroad you need to subscribe to Spark and Sky. What a clusterfuck thanks to NZC and the consumers lose
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@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@nzzp said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Crazy-Horse said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Anyone know how it will affect Black Cap coverage in Aus?
I think overseas rights are always negotiated with the hosts on a tour by tour basis. So Sky could cover it all still (or Spark, or TV3)...
I'm pretty sure Sky still has rights to all the overseas Black Caps fixtures.
But, I think @Crazy-Horse is asking who in Oz will carry the Spark broadcasts. No idea.
Spark don't have onsite broadcasting capability do they? They will probably have to pay sky TV's OSB to do it....
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I don't have any particular nostalgia for the sky commentary team. I don't think they're particularly entertaining or insightful. NZC took the money twenty years ago taking it off free to air and are doing the same now that someone is putting in the money to try break sky's monopoly, so I'm not particularly worried about that either. Ultimately more money for NZC is a good thing.
The radio comms on the other hand I'll really miss. They're great servants of the game and I hope someone (be they another radio station or spark) gets them involved.
Worth noting that radiosport have only turned down the exclusive negotiating period. Wouldn't surprise me if either rs or someone else winds up with the rights.
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@Cyclops I'm the other way with the Sky commentary team - I think they're excellent and complement one another well. Way better than what Australia has and had.
Spark is currently of no use to me, whereas I have a perfectly good Sky system - so I'm extremely fucked off with Spark (of whom I've been a customer forever, but that may shortly change). I'm far from convinced that the future of cricket broadcasting needs to be on the internet - I cannot believe people are going to watch cricket on their phones, though they may listen to it. Having home matches on spark and overseas matches on sky is a shambles - and frankly I hope the subscription service works as well for Spark as it did for those guys who took the EPL away from Sky (Premier League Pass or something).
I'm very hopeful that you'll be right about the radio coverage and that's all that's delaying my calls for David White's head!
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@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Cyclops I'm the other way with the Sky commentary team - I think they're excellent and complement one another well. Way better than what Australia has and had.
Spark is currently of no use to me, whereas I have a perfectly good Sky system - so I'm extremely fucked off with Spark (of whom I've been a customer forever, but that may shortly change). I'm far from convinced that the future of cricket broadcasting needs to be on the internet - I cannot believe people are going to watch cricket on their phones, though they may listen to it. Having home matches on spark and overseas matches on sky is a shambles - and frankly I hope the subscription service works as well for Spark as it did for those guys who took the EPL away from Sky (Premier League Pass or something).
I'm very hopeful that you'll be right about the radio coverage and that's all that's delaying my calls for David White's head!
I can totally understand why individuals might be unhappy with the decision to go to spark. But the same was true of the decision to go to sky twenty years ago.
You're right that our team is a crapload better than anything the Aussies have. I think we both have got sucked in to a 'jobs for the boys' mentality (probably the result of ex players that were genuinely great comms bringing up there mates). There's a place for ex players in the commentary box, but I don't think that's a mandatory requirement.
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@Cyclops said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
I don't have any particular nostalgia for the sky commentary team. I don't think they're particularly entertaining or insightful.
When Stevenson is announced as the new Spark sport cricket commentator you might change your opinion.
Smith is staying with Sky but will still have rugby and overseas cricket commentary commitments. Doull goes all over the world commentating. It will be interesting to see if the other ex-players end up with Spark.
I haven't listened to Radio Sport in years so that has no effect on me personally, but I used to enjoy Waddle, Coney and co, and do appreciate the work they do.