2015/Halbergs

SammyC

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Cheers. That's an interesting perspective. I do wonder though how much the age/background of those working in the industry colours their interests. Filming used to be the only thing pre Xgames type comps. You can't tell me that the explosion in numbers of kids demanding and using park setups on skifields aren't interested in the comps.
As you will be well aware there are plenty of 'factions' around skiing and boarding, with all them thinking they are the best. I bet if you polled people at TC on what interests them in winter activities you would get completely different results to Cardrona (same between Whaka and Turoa). 
I became interested in watching the park events mainly because it was my son's interest and having taken up snowsports at a very late age had no preconceptions or old school ways to think was better.
 
I do agree that there has been a disconnect between the comps and the fans which is why I am pleased to see the recent subtle change in emphasis. 
 
It's not like the judges weren't getting the message loud and clear when you'd see the biggest cheer for the day for Jossi doing 3 zero spins in a row after a bail on the rails. The crowd loves style more than 'tricks' (unless someone does something new and cool).
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haha, I am 35 these days, so perhaps I'm a bit old to indentify with all the kids :)
 
But I am a ski and snowboard video addict, between myself and a few friends we own all the major releases from the last 15 years or so.
 
I'm not sure that the parks etc being built are done to mimic what is happening in the X Games. I think the X Games etc is actually evolving to mimic what is happening in the videos.. the "real snow" competition has been the best viewing of all X games events in the last few years imo.
 
anyway ....plenty of video parts are filmed in the park or on the streets as well.

Crucial

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haha, I am 35 these days, so perhaps I'm a bit old to indentify with all the kids :)
 
 
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You're still a youngster. I'm 50 and only started boarding at 45. First 3 seasons were perseverance only but have slowly managed to get past the falls and frustration to be confidently taking on the odd box and jump. I tend to only go near parks/features where there is an opportunity to drop in on your way past before some kid realises there is some old fella making their sport uncool.

Baron Silas Greenback

50???
Get off the board granddad.

SammyC

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You're still a youngster. I'm 50 and only started boarding at 45. First 3 seasons were perseverance only but have slowly managed to get past the falls and frustration to be confidently taking on the odd box and jump. I tend to only go near parks/features where there is an opportunity to drop in on your way past before some kid realises there is some old fella making their sport uncool.
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I'm impressed you have stuck with it mate.. I'm lucky that I learnt to ski before the age of 3. It's a hard sport to learn later in life.

Bovidae

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Nah.. had enough of NZ football teams getting Halbergs for just being mostly hopeless and not completely hopeless on the world stage.
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Whoa, back up there! I never said the U20s were any part of the Halberg discusion, merely that the tournament could be added to the list of sporting highlights for this year.
 
The ABs and Hansen will win the Halberg so only the indivdual mens and womens winner will be of any interest.

Mokey

Winston Reid a sportsman nom? Seriously??

taniwharugby

Halberg Finalists:
 
In red who I think will win, only one I think probably should go another way is Lisa Carrington over Lydia, but isn't much in it, oh, also not overly sure of the emerging one.
 
As always, expect plenty to be their knickers in a twist over who ends up winning or who has been left out.
 
Sportsman of the Year(Eligible for the supreme Halberg Award)
Daniel Carter (Rugby), Danny Lee (Golf), Kane Williamson (Cricket), Scott Dixon (Motorsport).
Sportswoman of the Year (Eligible for the supreme Halberg Award)
Lauren Boyle (Swimming), Linda Villumsen (Cycling), Lisa Carrington (Canoeing), Lydia Ko (Golf).
Disabled Sportsperson of the Year (Eligible for the supreme Halberg Award)
Corey Peters (Para-Skiing), Michael Johnson (Para-Shooting), Nikita Howarth (Para-Swimming), Sophie Pascoe (Para-Swimming).
Team of the Year (Eligible for the supreme Halberg Award)
All Blacks (Rugby), Black Caps (Cricket), Men's Pair: Hamish Bond and Eric Murray (Rowing), Men's 49er Class: Peter Burling and Blair Tuke (Yachting).
Emerging Talent
Campbell Stewart (Cycling), Dylan Schmidt (Trampoline), Eliza McCartney (Athletics), Tai Wynyard (Basketball).
Coach of the Year
Gordon Walker (Canoeing), Hamish Willcox (Yachting), Mike Hesson (Cricket), Steve Hansen (Rugby).
 - Stuff
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/75682548/all-blacks-and-black-caps-dominate-halberg-awards-finalists'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/75682548/all-blacks-and-black-caps-dominate-halberg-awards-finalists</a>

dogmeat

That's some tough competition for the team award, although agree it should be AB's as Black Caps didn't win anything of note and rowing and sailing are in non-Olympic years
 
So gets the Supreme?
 
I would say AB's although hard to argue against Ko #1 and Major winner at her age

taniwharugby

Must be the first time in a long time Val hasn't been a finalist?

Bovidae

I'd be surprised if the ABs didn't win in a successful RWC year, as they did in 2011.
 
The omission of Mary Fisher in the Disabled Sportsperson of the Year category is a real fuckup.

Hooroo

Remember though folks, the Halbergs aren't about winning rather they are about punching above weight and generating extra interest.
 
I can see the BC's winning although my money is on AB's

Wurzel

The Halbergs screwed it royally giving Lydia Ko the Supreme Award the other year. The judges essentially said that's standard to be the Supreme winner not realising Lydia will better that standard each year for another 15 years.
 
The only thing that trumps World Number Ones and Majors in the judges eyes is Olympic Golf and ironically Lydia will likely win gold this year too meaning she'll still be top dog when the next Halbergs roll 'round.

Crucial

I said all that at the time and got shot down by the golf fans. 
It wasn't the sport, it was that she was awarded through excitement about what might be rather than waiting for it to come.

MajorRage

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The only thing that trumps World Number Ones and Majors in the judges eyes is Olympic Golf and ironically Lydia will likely win gold this year too meaning she'll still be top dog when the next Halbergs roll 'round.
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Jesus, thats confidence. I think she has 10-15% chance maximum. Like any golfer currently ranked number 1.

Frye

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Jesus, thats confidence. I think she has 10-15% chance maximum. Like any golfer currently ranked number 1.
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Skybet is saying 3/1 or 25%. And that's probably still a little high.

Smudge

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The omission of Mary Fisher in the Disabled Sportsperson of the Year category is a real fuckup.
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Shades of Val's Paperworkgate circa 2012.

Bovidae

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Shades of Val's Paperworkgate circa 2012.
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Even worse! PNZ were talking to Fisher's family and coaches on the morning the nominations were sent to the Halberg Awards committee and still forgot to submit it.

taniwharugby

another chapter of the Halbergs is kicking off, add in McCaws NZer of the Year award last night, I expect there will be plenty more punters unhappy after all these awards are handed out.

Frye

Not too fussed about the Halbergs but I'd be shocked if the All Blacks don't win the team award at the Laureus awards.
 
Shocked!

taniwharugby

MArk Watson was having a bit of a rant on RS about 5.15pm and while he had some valid points, he also didnt provide any solutions to make the awards 'fairer' to the 'other' sports.

The Silver Fern

2015/Halbergs