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    To be fair, this Indian team is much better than the Black Caps and a 4-0 scoreline is a fair reflection. India imploded and from 88-6 they should never have posted 165 - if the BCs had a half-decent pace attack, which of course they don't.

    NZ has paddling pool depth and nobody with quality appears to be coming through in all formats of the game. Taylor is about to hit 100 games each of test, ODI, T20 and surely he won't play for much longer - so there's the batting about to be weakened even further. Even young Kane isn't so young any more, Boult and Southee are getting long in the tooth and some young starlets are needed fast.

    Then again, it is only T20 cricket. At the moment. There are test matches to be lost soon.

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    @KiwiPie you're right, but at the same time Ross and Kane should have finished that game the other night. Ross should have finished that last night. That's nothing to do with depth, that's our two best ever batsmen choking at the death.

    I'm far from convinced about our tactics and mental application under the Kane/Stead combo. I think it's too conservative, and the longer we have this set up the more into our shells we go. Aus ruthlessly exposed that once they got an early upper hand and India under Kohli will as well.

    We will never have great depth, so our attitude and tactics need to be in point. Right now they're way off.

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    @No-Quarter Kane is a long way from being an excellent captain. And getting little help from the current coaching team

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    @No-Quarter Australia's fast bowlers are at least twice as good as New Zealand's in their own conditions and we'd just had a series with England playing on slow puddings. There's only so far mental conditioning and strategy can take you when you don't have the tools in your toolbox. If we want to be able to bat well in Aus then we need similar pitches here rather than the puddings which made Archer look gentle.

    We also need those pitches to get a set of bowlers who can hurl it down at 140+ AND control their line and length. At the moment we have trundlers who don't know where the next ball is heading. What is Southee even trying to achieve these days?

    Sure Kane should have finished that 3rd game off but it was only him taking to Bumrah (a rare event) that avoided another thrashing.

    What I'm trying to point out in my rather grumpy way (I've been sick in bed a few days) is that India bowl well in the key moments. They bowl fast, just short of a length or slow bouncers or yorkers but all designed to make it tricky to hit when you are desperate to get bat on ball. It's the essence of T20 and India are better than NZ.

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    @canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:

    @No-Quarter Kane is a long way from being an excellent captain. And getting little help from the current coaching team

    Almost won a Cricket World Cup though .... drew the final in fact. Whereas BMAC choked badly when he had his chance.

    We always complain when it is Sri Lanka and Bangladesh here in our summer but we're a lot better at cricket in those summers.

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    @KiwiPie he is probably quite a good ODI captain but he is not a good t20 captain. Southee said it was a communal decision to have him bowl the super over. If so, that means Williamson had some input into the decision which was terrible decision, Southee should never bowl a super over again, in fact I'm not even sure he should be in the team when everyone is fully fit.

    The t20 has issues that begin with squad selection which means we have problems before we even go into the game. We should not be playing t20 with five specialist bowlers.

    Also they need to mix up the bowling more by using more bowlers. It was obvious last night that slow bowling was the way to go but once the spinners were done we went back to pace. Why not try Munro or even Bruce?

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    I turned the TV off before the Super over as I already knew the result. 🤣

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    I would be interested to see what our dot ball rate is in T20 compared to others

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    Why is Southee our go to death bowler? He's chucking down medium pace half volleys which are being properly dispatched.

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    @Damo said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:

    Why is Southee our go to death bowler? He's chucking down medium pace half volleys which are being properly dispatched.

    His economy rate was twice as bad as the next worst BCs bowler. #garysteadout

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    Another dreadful (non) review. I was more worried about the impending runout chaos until the umpire put the finger up.

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    Don't know the DRS but, guppy gets the review every time

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    17/2, in deep sheet.

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    We.Are.Shit.

    What a terrible run out.

    17/3

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    We are like the keystone cops, run outs like you'd probably see at lower club level. A farken disgrace

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    There's some strange behaviour manifesting in this nz cricket team and it's got nothing to do with their individual cricket skills.

    There's a mindset and assertiveness problem with this team since the world cup.

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    This team is so meek and apparently confused. From player selections, to batting orders, to monumental batting collapses, to sub standard fielding, to the fact that we've been soundly done over in our last 8 fricken games, ( get fucked, losing the Hamilton game was every bit as useless as the Sydney game).

    This is a hell of a fall in performance- win loss record runs secondary to the manner of the losses- we've retarded our progress astonishingly.

    This team is not in good health

    It's not obvious where the problem is but the decision making and leadership personnel needs a serious look. There is enough cricket skill to suggest that we haven't suddenly exposed some foundational weaknesses in the system but there's a whole heap of adequately skilled international cricketers playing as badly as you could imagine, given their calibre and recent results.

    28 for 3

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    @Siam as they say, its easier to change the coach than change the players. When does Stead's contract run out? I wouldn't expect NZC to be proactive enough to seriously consider firing him

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    @canefan yep, but if you're fair dinkum you gotta look equally at Kane and Gav and others.

    Dare it be said but we're missing a Baz swagger, or at least a "spin it wide" mentality. The Aussies will prosper with Steve Smith just batting, I wish we could afford Kane the same luxury. But we can't.

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    @Siam I don't think Kane is aggressive by nature. Maybe he's a better batsman than captain. It doesnt appear that Stead is offering good guidance because he was seemingly better when Hesson was still there

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