Planes
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Love this story
That's bloody brilliant . Hear those biggest dick contests all the time. The "we're showing closer to 2,000" - superb.
I remember when the SAAB 2000 (50 odd seat turboprop) was new and being demonstrated in NZ, it was heading into CHC. An Air NZ 737 called up and asked ATC when they were going to pass the SAAB as they wanted descent clearance, he was getting a bit angsty about it. The controller, with a distinct snigger in his voice replied " you won't, he's going faster than you.
There was that silence on the radio for quite some time that was just mentioned in the clip.
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@taniwharugby said in Planes:
Seems legit
Listened to this on a 'No such thing as a fish' podcast.
Not sure what that link is?
Anyway Planes:
Fred Ladd flew this Avenger. He is a bit of a legend in NZ aviation, loads of WW2 missions in the Pacific- got prosecuted for flying a Widgeon under AKL harbour bridge on his last day flying tourists and got off (somehow). Also had an OBE.Can't believe they were using it for Ag work in the eighties!
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@Snowy here is the WIki link.
Particularly this part they talked about on No such thing as a fish
Donald also became famous for his miraculous escape from death having fallen from his Sopwith Camel at 6,000 feet (1,800 m) in 1917. On a summer's afternoon he attempted a new manoeuvre in his Sopwith Camel and flew the machine up and over, and as he reached the top of his loop, hanging upside down, his safety belt snapped and he fell out. He was not wearing a parachute as a matter of policy. Incredibly, the Camel had continued its loop downwards, and Donald landed on its top wing. He grabbed it with both hands, hooked one foot into the cockpit and wrestled himself back in, struggled to take control, and executed "an unusually good landing". In an interview given 55 years later he explained, "The first 2,000 feet passed very quickly and terra firma looked damnably 'firma'. As I fell I began to hear my faithful little Camel somewhere nearby. Suddenly I fell back onto her.
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@taniwharugby Never ruin a good dit with the truth 😂
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@taniwharugby said in Planes:
Seems legit
Found it:
Episode 222: No Such Thing As A Warmongering PigeonPretty funny.
I haven't flown a Camel but it is possible, albeit really, really, really, really, really, unlikely. The aircraft may have been stable enough to continue on it's path. I don't know enough about Camels and I doubt that they are very stable without human input. Modern aircraft are amazing in that regard - if you fuck up and just leave everything alone (assuming you have some altitude) they will just right themselves in straight and level flight.The maths is also a bit difficult to work out. Radius of loop (which wouldn't have been a perfect circle as Camel wouldn't have managed that I don't think , speed of Camel in uncontrolled dive, human acceleration and terminal velocity (if reached). I might have over thought that...
If this was a well known british TV show - I would say it was a "Lie!" but amusing, thank you Grahame and you do have quite an imagination.
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@taniwharugby said in Planes:
Seems legit
Listened to this on a 'No such thing as a fish' podcast.
Not sure what that link is?
Anyway Planes:
Fred Ladd flew this Avenger. He is a bit of a legend in NZ aviation, loads of WW2 missions in the Pacific- got prosecuted for flying a Widgeon under AKL harbour bridge on his last day flying tourists and got off (somehow). Also had an OBE.Can't believe they were using it for Ag work in the eighties!
Was fieldair using them for crop dusting ? Paul Newman was a gunner in one of those beasts .
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BBC News - Boeing 737 Max: Worker said plane 'designed by clowns'
They show how ready Boeing was to go toe-to-toe with any regulator that thought otherwise. Minutes from a meeting even illustrate how careful Boeing was in its communications about MCAS - the flight control system implicated in both crashes. They appear to have been trying to keep a lid on the fact it was a new system, to minimise demands for extra training.
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@Donsteppa A bit radical of me I know, but fixing the fault would actually mean that they didn't have to train the pilots. On the other hand training pilots to cope with bad aircraft design and system failures is quite traditional and a recognised way of preventing accidents (which aren't really as they knew the faults existed), crashes is a better word.
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@Donsteppa A bit radical of me I know, but fixing the fault would actually mean that they didn't have to train the pilots. On the other hand training pilots to cope with bad aircraft design and system failures is quite traditional and a recognised way of preventing accidents (which aren't really as they knew the faults existed), crashes is a better word.
Good point. Reminds me of back in the day (I'm sure they still do it, just I don't) doing analysis of road projects Transfund/Transit used to call it crash data, as they weren't accidents.
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A U.S. twin-engine transport Caribou crashes after being hit by American artillery near Duc Pho on August 3, 1967. U.S. artillery accidentally shot down the ammunition-laden plane, which crossed a firing zone while trying to land at the U.S. Special Forces camp. All three crewman died in the crash.
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@jegga that plane + cargo could take over NZ!
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@Paekakboyz F15Es are the shit. During TLP (best multi-national air training there is) we had a pair with us on the course. They'd take off first, self sweep (A2A), drop the most ordnance (along with the Tornado GR), then self escort out and land last. We had better SA with our data link, and the best heat seeker in the world with ASRAAM - but yeah awesome machines.
Grahame Donald - Wikipedia
