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  • ToddyT Offline
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    replied to NTA on last edited by
    #267

    @NTA It's definitely getting harder to get insurance after the two SI (Chch & Kaikoura) earthquakes. We just reinsured at work (in Wellington) and it's gone up $400K from the previous year.

    25,000 capacity seems pretty small but I guess it won't look so bad on TV when Cantabs stop using it after 8-10 years.

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    I like it!

    My wife and I are on a medium term plan to move back to NZ and have bought land about an hour out of Christchurch.

    Going to AB and Chiefs games under the roof will be awesome, and this should help the city develop.

    Excellent!

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    @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    I like it!

    My wife and I are on a medium term plan to move back to NZ and have bought land about an hour out of Christchurch.

    Going to AB and Chiefs games under the roof will be awesome, and this should help the city develop.

    Excellent!

    Umm, the crusaders are from Christchurch, not the chiefs....

    😜

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    replied to NTA on last edited by taniwharugby
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    @NTA Wellington is harder to insure than the SI, many of the large risks are being placed with off shore insurers (like Lloyds) with huge excesses.

    But outside Wellington earthquake cover still largely available although they are imposing stricter terms, and domestic is largely dealt with by the EQC, although insurer rates for pre 1940 homes are usually much higher south of Taupo and I think IAG (NZI, AMI, State, Lantern) are not keen on parts of Wellington for domestic risks

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    That stadium looks nice. I think the business case depends on how many concerts you can actually attract.

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    A 25K stadium probably means only tier 2 test matches with Auckland and Wellington to still get the big tests.

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    @Machpants said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    I like it!

    My wife and I are on a medium term plan to move back to NZ and have bought land about an hour out of Christchurch.

    Going to AB and Chiefs games under the roof will be awesome, and this should help the city develop.

    Excellent!

    Umm, the crusaders are from Christchurch, not the chiefs....

    😜

    Except for when we kick their asses regular season or in the playoffs, or both!

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    @gt12 bloody good to get more chiefs surpporters down south. you will be surprised how many there are.

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    25,000 seater that will look like a click clack container with that see through roof.

    What a waste. This is the perfect opportunity to build something that is future proof with the ever growing populations and they are going with a 25,000 seater.

    @shark is not a happy camper, that is for sure

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    @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

    Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    @Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

    Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

    Totally agree.

    Shark was mentioning on Facebook last night that with a stadium at 25k, it is only in competition for tests with Waikato Stadium, Albany etc. That makes it rather small. 3rd biggest city in NZ and growing.

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    @Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

    a 'like for like' rebuild isnt what they are planning...most insurance policies have specific clauses about rebuilding differently at different sites etc.

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    @Kirwan How big is Dunedin's stadium?

    EDIT: Seems that it's 31k, but I'm not sure about temporary seating. Would've thought that around 35 or 40k was the minimum for a major AB test.

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    BTW, Dunedin's Forsyth Barr Stadium had a construction cost of $198M

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @Tim said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    BTW, Dunedin's Forsyth Barr Stadium had a construction cost of $198M

    How long ago was that built though?

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    replied to Hooroo on last edited by
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    @Hooroo

    2009 - 2011. How much have construction costs in NZ gone up in that time?

    What are the additional costs from seismic measures?

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @Tim said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @Hooroo

    2009 - 2011. How much have construction costs in NZ gone up in that time?

    What are the additional costs from seismic measures?

    No idea but that will be part of it.

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @Tim lots!

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
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    @taniwharugby Love that deliberate net immigration increase from 10 to 20k per annum to 60 to 70k. Great policy for everyone.

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    #286

    For me this is a brilliant option. Cantabs should really get behind it and make sure it happens

    More than 25000 is too much now. Play the big tests mostly in Auckland and let the rest of the country have a smaller stadium that at least will be part full for most matches. Even when its raining

    10 or 20% full is a poor atmosphere. And looks terrible on TV and that's where the focus is now.

    edit. The current stadium look shit on TV. Its a joke even when almost full.

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