Klitschko, Fury, Parker, Takam & Joshua
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Klitchko pretty much took on all mandatory s for a decade , which I guess is why I have some respect for him .<br>
Yeah not too many great boxers in that list of guys he has beaten . , but that's not his fault . He can only beat what is there , and he cant be accused of dodging anyone , which is a bit rare these days .</p></blockquote>
Except for you know... Vitali. Hard to respect him as the best in the world when he wont even show he is the best in the family or better than the other preeminent boxer in his division at the time.<br><br>
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<p>No one wants to fight Vitali in his new career of politics either </p>
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I couldn't give a monkeys what Tyson Fury's political and religious opinions are. They are a private matter for him and his family. If the media find his opinions offensive they shouldn't keep asking him or broadcasting them.<br><br>
But the idea that a guy who has just defeated a legend like Klitschko and become heavy-weight champion of the world, shouldn't be on a short list of the 12 best sports stars in the UK is utterly ridiculous. Fury isn't standing for political office or offering to bring up anyone else's children, his job is knocking 7 bells out of another guy in a boxing ring. Something he is very good at.<br><br>
It's not like a nation that got dumped out of the last Soccer, Cricket and Rugby world cups (even when they had home advantage) in the group stages, is so blessed with sporting process and success that they can turn their noses up at a talented athlete like Tyson Fury. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="546798" data-time="1449685123"><p>I couldn't give a monkeys what Tyson Fury's political and religious opinions are. They are a private matter for him and his family. If the media find his opinions offensive they shouldn't keep asking him or broadcasting them.<br>
But the idea that a guy who has just defeated a legend like Klitschko and become heavy-weight champion of the world, shouldn't be on a short list of the 12 best sports stars in the UK is utterly ridiculous. Fury isn't standing for political office or offering to bring up anyone else's children, his job is knocking 7 bells out of another guy in a boxing ring. Something he is very good at.<br>
It's not like a nation that got dumped out of the last Soccer, Cricket and Rugby world cups (even when they had home advantage) in the group stages, is so blessed with sporting process and success that they can turn their noses up at a talented athlete like Tyson Fury.</p></blockquote>
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Problem is they are not a private matter if he broadcasts them to the world during interviews. I don't care what he thinks either but I'd rather he kept it to himself. I don't expect him to be the brightest of buttons but surely even he knows people will find some of his views inflammatory and he should do his talking in the ring. He's mildly amusing when doing his slapstick pranks, maybe he should stick to that. -
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<p>Problem is they are not a private matter if he broadcasts them to the world during interviews. I don't care what he thinks either but I'd rather he kept it to himself. I don't expect him to be the brightest of buttons but surely even he knows people will find some of his views inflammatory and he should do his talking in the ring. He's mildly amusing when doing his slapstick pranks, maybe he should stick to that.</p>
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<p>People said the same about Muhammad Ali at the time - particularly the Uncle Tom stuff.</p>
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<p>Fury is just playing the fight game. He is a poor man's Connor MacGregor (and far less self aware), but after the Klitchko's that is a huge improvement in the heavyweight division.</p> -
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<p>Yes but we were living in very different times back then and yes he went too far sometimes but mostly Ali was very entertaining</p>
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<p>I find Fury to be (given the slim pickings of the times) a pretty entertaining heel. He is no Ric Flair though, more of a pikey Jake the Snake Roberts.</p>
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<p>If we are going to give guys like Pocock or Goodes a pass to throw their political opinions around (and applaud them and award them for it) I don't see why we should scold Fury. I don't agree with what he is saying (good heel) but I don't believe in censoring anyone short of sedition. This clown who reported him to police for hate speech? Next they will be demanding "safe spaces" at boxing events because people find the sport "triggering".</p> -
<p>I think he and Trump would be great mates.</p>
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<p>Yes but we were living in very different times back then and yes he went too far sometimes but mostly Ali was very entertaining</p>
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<p>Yes we are, now people feel that they have to be offended by pretty much everything they read online or see on the TV. </p>
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<p>I agree with Sparky. He's obviously playing the heel a bit.</p>
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Yes but we were living in very different times back then and yes he went too far sometimes but mostly Ali was very entertaining</p></blockquote>
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I was a kid when Ali was around , <br><br>
It's interesting how the perception of him has changed , is loved now , but not at the time <br><br>
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<p>“There are only three things that need to be accomplished before the devil comes home: one of them is homosexuality being legal in countries, one of them is abortion and the other one’s paedophilia.â€<br><br>
Yep, hilarious.</p>
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<p>"The white man is my enemy" and "Joe Frazier is an Uncle Tom, he works to the enemy". Amongst a ton of others.</p>
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<p>Mundine is probably a better example, some absolutely off-the-reservation ideas as far as I'm concerned but it certainly helped develop his character and get people interested in his fights at least for a little while.</p>
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<p>There is a reason Hulk Hogan won his first WWF title off the Iron Sheik and many of his first defences were against Koloff and Volkoff - not to mention the Slaughter/Sadam Hussein angle the gulf war.</p>
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<p>I couldn't give a monkeys what Tyson Fury's political and religious opinions are. They are a private matter for him and his family. If the media find his opinions offensive they shouldn't keep asking him or broadcasting them.<br><br>
But the idea that a guy who has just defeated a legend like Klitschko and become heavy-weight champion of the world, shouldn't be on a short list of the 12 best sports stars in the UK is utterly ridiculous. Fury isn't standing for political office or offering to bring up anyone else's children, his job is knocking 7 bells out of another guy in a boxing ring. Something he is very good at.<br><br>
It's not like a nation that got dumped out of the last Soccer, Cricket and Rugby world cups (even when they had home advantage) in the group stages, is so blessed with sporting process and success that they can turn their noses up at a talented athlete like Tyson Fury.</p>
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<p>Calm down, nobody said it was hilarious.</p>
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<p>He's playing the bad guy to get a reaction I think.</p>
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<p>Judging by the overreaction on here, it's been a raging success.</p>
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<p>I actually think he's just speaking his mind. I don't think he thinks he's a bad guy at all.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/boxing/tyson-fury-tells-critics-suck-6963514'>These are not the actions</a> of someone who isn't at least a little self aware. Pure heel playing the crowd for a pay day.</p> -
Maybe I just don't get his "humour". I don't find him offensive, he's a boxer FFS, it's just when he opens his mouth he just seems to make a massive twat of himself. But then maybe that's just me, we'll have to agree to disagree on that.<br><br>
Comparing him with Ali? Let's just say you can cut a guy a bit it of slack once he's become sporting icon. Fury has a looooong way to go before he can lace his boots. I don't think Fury is in it for the long haul, my guess is he knows he is a limited fighter and is enjoying his moment in the sun.<br><br>
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<p>He can be a limited fighter if he can negate opponents best punches with that long long reach.</p>
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<p>I don't find Fury offensive, probably because I'm not a woman, not gay and have never had an abortion, but I do think he's a complete asshole.</p>
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<p>A lot of what he says isn't a "political opinion". It's just uneducated bullshit.</p>
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<p>If some people enjoy listening to that, then good for you, but to me it's not worth listening too.</p>
