Cricket: NZ vs England
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@Snowy said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
"In a previous tweet, subsequently deleted, Archer further outlined the nature of the abuse, posting: “Can the guy that was yelling bbc and bc from the scoreboard area today come forward and tell me what those words mean please? Because I don’t...”
I'm puzzled. Was someone shouting letters? If so how are they racist? (Kidding)
If they were the words he should have understood them and has a right to be offended if I think those letters are the start of what was said.He should also have understood them as being announced by a dickhead and get a thicker skin.
I hadn't seen that.
If someone was shouting 'You BC (or BBC)' then fair enough. It's pretty obvious what he meant (if directed at Archer)
BC also = Black Caps
'Black Caps' misheard?
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One person out of thousands shouts 4 words and letters. Big deal.
Explain to anyone who doesn't understand why he's a dickhead and move on. That's the reason for the witch hunt isn't it? To deter others from judging on the basis of skin colour.
It's getting nearly more investigation than a labour party sex criminal.
Some perspective would be nice
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@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
One person out of thousands shouts 4 words and letters. Big deal.
Explain to anyone who doesn't understand why he's a dickhead and move on. That's the reason for the witch hunt isn't it? To deter others from judging on the basis of skin colour.
It's getting nearly more investigation than a labour party sex criminal.
Some perspective would be nice
How much limelight should this be given? I didn't realise there had to be an upper and lower limit of focus?
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@Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
One person out of thousands shouts 4 words and letters. Big deal.
Explain to anyone who doesn't understand why he's a dickhead and move on. That's the reason for the witch hunt isn't it? To deter others from judging on the basis of skin colour.
It's getting nearly more investigation than a labour party sex criminal.
Some perspective would be nice
How much limelight should this be given? I didn't realise there had to be an upper and lower limit of focus?
I'd like them to find the guy and slap a ban on him (2 -3 years) to send a message. I think Kane apologising on behalf of all New Zealanders is over-egging it a bit.
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@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
One person out of thousands shouts 4 words and letters. Big deal.
Explain to anyone who doesn't understand why he's a dickhead and move on. That's the reason for the witch hunt isn't it? To deter others from judging on the basis of skin colour.
It's getting nearly more investigation than a labour party sex criminal.
Some perspective would be nice
How much limelight should this be given? I didn't realise there had to be an upper and lower limit of focus?
I'd like them to find the guy and slap a ban on him (2 -3 years) to send a message. I think Kane apologising on behalf of all New Zealanders is over-egging it a bit.
They are talking a potential life ban aren't they? I don't mind that our captain has apologised
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@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
I'd like them to find the guy and slap a ban on him (2 -3 years) to send a message. I think Kane apologising on behalf of all New Zealanders is over-egging it a bit.
Jeez, that's jumping in ahead of Jacinda. She will be annoyed about missing out on the press coverage of her being first in the queue to apologise.
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As @Hooroo suggests it should be fully investigated, and and punished, or dismissed if untrue or a misunderstanding.
I'm just not convinced that a NZ crowd would stand around and allow that, thus I am cynical.
Can think of parallels but won't drag this further into a Politics forum rabbithole.
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CDG and Boult out of Second Test
John Mitchell's son comes into the team with Ferguson
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With regard to the racism issue - why is there an immediate assumption that the "attack" was by a Kiwi.
I find it entirely plausible that a pissed up Pom, disappointed at his side being trounced, decided to take it out on the Great White (sic) Hope of their bowling attack who had massively under-achieved.
If there was a racist taunt I am all in favour of a lifetime ban but I am disturbed that no one else has come forward to corroborate the story. Normally there's no shortage of posters on social media when these things emerge.
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Really excited to see Ferg get a go in the test arena. He has a very good first class record in the longer form so no reason why he won't go well. He and Wags could be a very difficult combination to face.
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@No-Quarter I'm a bit more cautious ( pessismistic from years of Heath Davis, Brendon Stirling, someone Drum dashed hopes) on young Locky. Admittedly i haven't seen him bowl a red ball, but raw pace alone doesn't bother elite batsmen without a run rate in play.
I'd be ecstatic for him to prove me wrong and it's up to him to forge a place, which is cool.
Won't be surprised to see Henry recalled with a specific role to play.
I'd like to be wrong though
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@Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Hooroo something more robust than unofficial twitter accusation would be a start.
How come?
I'm not sure what you're asking.
How come a story started on Twitter turns out to be lacking substance?
How come he didn't alert officials first?
How come he didn't identify the transgressor, ala Adam Goodes?
How come his tweet removes due process for "convicting" a "racist"?
How come it's been picked up by clickbait media willing to paint NZers as racist?How come a professional cricketer doesn't have the tools or knowledge to cope with nonsense talk?
How come he hasn't defined what he wants to accomplish with his tweet?
How come his accusation demonstrates nothing other than perhaps there was one guy in a 5 day crowd with limited intelligence?It's a thin story with delicious outrage and generalisation potential. Dogmeat raised more good considerations.
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@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Oh and nice to exorcise the ghost of the Panesar drawn test in Eden Park a few years ago.
Really need a big effort in Hamilton...or 3 days of rain!
There seems to be plenty of draws in cricket with England which have been defeat recently. Many many ghosts!
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Some context and
collaborationcorroborationhttps://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888
What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?
