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    #1646

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/117613585/wallabies-australia-to-review-giteau-law-as-landscape-changes-with-dave-rennie-appointment

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    @Stargazer zero surprise there. Given the calibre of player leaving, and who they have to come in, it's a bit of a no-brainer.

    Possibly a bit short-term in terms of thinking, but understandable

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

    @Stargazer zero surprise there. Given the calibre of player leaving, and who they have to come in, it's a bit of a no-brainer.

    Possibly a bit short-term in terms of thinking, but understandable

    Reads awfully like a panic striken short term fix.

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    I genuinely don't know where they will end up on the Giteau law.

    While the 60-cap rule gets the most attention, the most influential aspect has been the clause that allows you to play for the Wallabies if you have signed a contract with a Super team for an upcoming season.

    We have the slightly farcical situation where Nic White played this season but his contract with the Brumbies doesn't start until mid-2020. But he's signed on the dotted line, so he plays.

    I wouldn't be shocked if they made it open slather, but I also think there's a chance they wind it back.

    We don't have the depth in Super Rugby to lose more of our top players. The Saffers have enough local support and talent to absorb the losses, but for us it would mean a further hit to local crowds and local results.

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    Machpants
    replied to antipodean on last edited by
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    @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

    @Stargazer zero surprise there. Given the calibre of player leaving, and who they have to come in, it's a bit of a no-brainer.

    Possibly a bit short-term in terms of thinking, but understandable

    Reads awfully like a panic striken short term fix.

    The review of the Giteau law was mentioned months/years ago. Castle has said it's not set in stone and will come under regular reviews, so it's not even news IMO

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    The problem with regular reviews is players never know what the rules will be and it makes it more difficult to plan their careers accordingly.

    I understand and sympathise with the requirement to make the national squads as competitive as possible, but that doesn't help make the next tier competitive and compelling to spectators if it looks like open slather to chase more money without consequence.

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    #1652

    Same as here, there is no ideal answer. Do we lose almost all of our players and have crap SR/local teams, but get to use our best as ABs no matter where? Long term will that kill our rugby development here - no senior players for new pro kids to learn from?

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    @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

    I also think there's a chance they wind it back.

    I think - in light of the work they've been doing on the U20 pathways - winding it back is more sensible than allowing ourselves to go unrestricted. We should back the players coming through the system.

    We don't have a Currie Cup or Varsity comp of the quality the Saffers have. Sydney Club Rugby is comical in its attempts to be both a semipro development stream and "grassroots" link to the general public.

    Maybe in future years we could look at no-holds-barred selection policy, but until they've achieved significant reform in the schools and club systems, with a view to getting rugby aligned across domestic Unions / orgs, it won't happen.

    EDIT: and bringing back players like Cooper and Genia was hardly a raging success.

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    wrote on last edited by muddyriver
    #1654

    It's hard to say what would happen with an open market. You would obviously lose most top all blacks but would probably gain alot of season ed vets as the overseas market would be alot tougher. And your younger players would also find it harder to leave. Most competitions now have a local player requirement or a foreigner cap so that there would be a natural balance some where

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    For aussie I agree I dont think they have the depth

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    Kylar Loussikian, Jennifer Duke  /  Nov 24, 2019  /  Rugby Union

    Foxtel threatens to cut ties with rugby union

    Foxtel threatens to cut ties with rugby union

    Senior Foxtel sources confirmed the pay TV giant had withdrawn its offer for the five-year rights to the code as Optus expresses its interest.

    Senior Foxtel sources confirmed it had withdrawn its offer for the five-year rights to the Super Rugby competition, the National Rugby Championships and Wallabies Tests. However, they said there was still a chance the pay TV company and Rugby Australia could reach a deal
    
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    They want to ditch NRC first and foremost.

    But otherwise playing hardball.

    Leckie is a fluffybunny

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    @Duluth said in Aussie Rugby:

    Kylar Loussikian, Jennifer Duke  /  Nov 24, 2019  /  Rugby Union

    Foxtel threatens to cut ties with rugby union

    Foxtel threatens to cut ties with rugby union

    Senior Foxtel sources confirmed the pay TV giant had withdrawn its offer for the five-year rights to the code as Optus expresses its interest.

    Senior Foxtel sources confirmed it had withdrawn its offer for the five-year rights to the Super Rugby competition, the National Rugby Championships and Wallabies Tests. However, they said there was still a chance the pay TV company and Rugby Australia could reach a deal
    

    OUCH

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    I'll dump Kayo if that's the case. Only got it for the rugby.

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    @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

    I'll dump Kayo if that's the case. Only got it for the rugby.

    Same. I hope if it does go to Optus they get NPC as well, otherwise I guess I'm investing a VPN and Rugby Pass.

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    deadset, if Foxtel lose the rugby i'll shitcan it, and watch free-to-air AFL and NRL only. Fuck adding another subscription service.

    The Sky/Foxtel business model only works if you are getting the content. Now, there are 46 different streaming services, and they all have shit you want to watch. It's a fucking rort. Suck my balls.

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

    Suck my balls.

    Add these guys to various insurance industries

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  • chimoausC Offline
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    Oh that really blows, I loved watching all the Rugby I needed on Kayo. Foxtel has been bleeding cash for awhile now, maybe they are trying to reign in the costs.

    I am surprised there hasn't been one giant streaming service that offers everything and they have a pay per play model like spotify. As it stands it is getting ridiculous with all the services on offer.

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    @chimoaus I've been advocating for this for a while. A single aggregated subscription to cover it all.

    Heck I'd even pay for an aggregated TV guide just so I know where to find shit rather than doing 5 separate searches!!!

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  • NTAN Offline
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    #1665

    If Foxtel had gone on a Kayo style product with partners like ESPN and bein a few years back, maybe they wouldn't have wasted so much time and money on dickhole bullshit like FoxtelGo OR continuing to support low-appeal shows for whack jobs

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