Cricket: NZ vs England
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@Bovidae said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Virgil said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Watling is fast heading to a NZ great, if hes not already there.
Maybe the most underrated NZ cricketer of the last 20 years. He is the glue to NZ's batting.
Another who has some connection to the pacific island of Tokoroa.
Think it was on cricinfo a few weeks ago, stat wise no keeper has averaged more with the bat in tests since 2014(i think).
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@SynicBast said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
316/5 at tea, excellent work by Watling and CdG. Still early in his career, but CdG would be getting up there as a test all-rounder.
He's got a better bowling strike-rate and average than Stokes, and a better batting average, yet somehow stokes is seen as the better all-rounder - usual fallacious case of equating limited over performances with Tests
I think de Grandhomme suffers from a perception that he scores 'easy' runs, and gets out softly. Haven't looked at his stats to judge the former, but he's definitely guilty of the latter. Batting at 7 (vs 6 for Stokes) doesn't help the perception either.
Stokes has a lot more tons too.
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@SynicBast said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
316/5 at tea, excellent work by Watling and CdG. Still early in his career, but CdG would be getting up there as a test all-rounder.
He's got a better bowling strike-rate and average than Stokes, and a better batting average, yet somehow stokes is seen as the better all-rounder - usual fallacious case of equating limited over performances with Tests
Stokes has played a lot more tests and against tougher opposition. He's had 26 Ashes innings with the bat, where Colin has never played Australia. Similarly, Stokes has played plenty against India, where Colin never has.
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@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@SynicBast said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Godder said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
316/5 at tea, excellent work by Watling and CdG. Still early in his career, but CdG would be getting up there as a test all-rounder.
He's got a better bowling strike-rate and average than Stokes, and a better batting average, yet somehow stokes is seen as the better all-rounder - usual fallacious case of equating limited over performances with Tests
Stokes has played a lot more tests and against tougher opposition. He's had 26 Ashes innings with the bat, where Colin has never played Australia. Similarly, Stokes has played plenty against India, where Colin never has.
What’s the old saying, you can only play what’s in front of you?
Also the fact he plays for NZ means he’s never going to get the usual plaudits that a good English, Aussie or Indian cricketer are going to get.
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I can see why they're digging in. Flailing and being all out for 440 makes no sense given the slowness of the pitch. If they can occupy the crease then the runs will come - still think this is heading for a draw though and the pitch has let down the grand occasion of Bay Oval's first test
