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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Stargazer
    wrote on last edited by Stargazer
    #712

    As already posted in the Hurricanes 2020 thread, Lincoln McClutchie has signed with a Japanese club after being snubbed for a SR contract. His club is NTT Docomo Red Hurricanes. That's the team of Liam Squire, Marty Banks and Keepa Mewett (coached by former AB Mike Brewer). It's also the team where Gareth Evans played a few games, last year.

    It's ironic that he is playing for a team called the Hurricanes ...

    【リリース】2019年度 新加入選手のお知らせ(追加) | ニュース | レッドハリケーンズ大阪

    【リリース】2019年度 新加入選手のお知らせ(追加) | ニュース | レッドハリケーンズ大阪

    レッドハリケーンズ大阪のオフィシャルウェブサイトです。試合スケジュール・試合結果・選手等を紹介しています。

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    Was he snubbed?

    Is it definite that he was not offered a contract by the Hurricanes, or was not going to be offered one?

    Is it definite that the Japanese contract did not come first, before any approach from the Hurricanes?

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    replied to Number 10 on last edited by Stargazer
    #714

    @Number-10 said in Exodus 2019:

    Was he snubbed?

    Is it definite that he was not offered a contract by the Hurricanes,

    It seems the only logic explanation. Why would a 20-year old NZ rugby player refuse a full Super Rugby contract? (Development contracts may not pay enough if you have financial responsibilities.)

    or was not going to be offered one?

    Do they have to buy a crystal ball to know that, or do you prefer a clairvoyant?

    Is it definite that the Japanese contract did not come first, before any approach from the Hurricanes?

    Most new players for the Japanese clubs were announced before the RWC. Preseason in Japan has been underway for a few weeks already. So it's reasonable to assume that they're now picking up the leftovers ...

    But if you have inside knowledge that indicates that McClutchie refused a full SR contract to go to Japan, or that a NZ franchise made an offer after he accepted the Japanese contract, please, do tell ...

    Edited to add that as long as there is no complete openess about why certain players were not included in the announced SR squads, you can expect speculation about players being snubbed until the facts are known. I'd love to know the facts! Unfortunately, we have to wait until a journalist asks the right questions, gets clear answers and writes them down in an article on the Stuff or NZH website.

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    Marshall's signing was signalled early, perhaps even before the M10 Cup.

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    @Bovidae James Marshall's (and Murphy Taramai's) signing with the Canes was announced on 2 October 2019.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12285225

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    @Tim That's all because of an article in L'Equipe. Toulon has already responded with a statement that the LNR (responsible for the French domestic competitions) has approved and signed the contract with NMS and that he will arrive at the club in December.

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    @Stargazer But you don't know when discussions with Marshall began or the contract was signed.

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    #720

    A list of the South African schoolboys headed to Japan, France, England, Australia & Ireland
    Grey College
    Tiaan Jonker: Free State, n/a, lock/eighthman, Melbourne Rebels in Australia
    Marcell Muller: n/a, n/a, wing, Montpellier, France
    Lesley Botha: Free State, n/a, centre, Montpellier, France
    FC du Plessis: n/a, n/a, flyhalf, Toulon, France
    Danwich Beukes: Free State in 2018, n/a, flank/lock, Toulon, France
    George Cronjé: Free State, SA Schools, eighthman, France
    Jan-Hendrik Wessels: Free State, SA Schools, prop, France

    Paul Roos
    Jarrod Cairns: Western Province XV, SA Schools A, loose forward, Melbourne Rebels, Australia
    Kade Wolhuter: Western Province, n/a, fullback/flyhalf, Montpellier, France
    Robbie Rodgers: Western Province, n/a, prop, Montpellier, France

    Affies
    Werner Kruger: Blue Bulls, n/a, Stade Français, prop, France
    Jacques-Lois du Toit: Blue Bulls, SA Schools A, hooker, Stade Français, France

    Garsfontein
    Zeilinga Strydom: Blue Bulls, SA School, fullback ck, Stade Français
    Jaryd Scheepers: Blue Bulls XV, n/a, lock, University in Australia

    Paarl Gim

    Pierich Siebert: Western Province, SA Schools A, flank, Japan
    Stephan du Toit: Western Province XV, n/a, centre, Japan

    Bethlehem Voortrekker
    Steyl Barnard: n/a, n/a, lock, Béziers, France

    Milnerton
    Romuald Ntumba: Western Province, n/a, flank, Pau, France

    Noordheuwel
    Sergio Moreira: n/a, n/a, lock, Montpellier, France

    Paarl Boys’ High
    Rynhardt Rijnsburger: Western Province, SA Schools A, prop, unclear

    St Andrew’s
    Chris Poole: Eastern Province, n/a, hooker, Ulster, Ireland

    St John’s
    Alexander Groves: Golden Lions XV, n/a, lock, Bristol, England

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    #721

    A list of SA schoolboys heading overseas is really pushing the boat out when it comes to the exodus thread. Fair play for locating this somewhat esoteric information though!

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #722

    The Colorado Raptors (MLR), coached by Peter Borlase, have signed several Kiwis:

    Rene Ranger (Northland)
    Mason Emerson (Hawke's Bay)
    Michael Curry ( Ta$man)
    Michael Stewart (Southland)
    Samuel Slade (Counties Manukau)

    Also signed:
    Digby Ioane

    https://coloradoraptors.com/news/raptors-announce-rene-ranger-as-final-signing-for-the-2020-season/
    https://coloradoraptors.com/news/raptors-announce-new-and-returning-players-for-its-2020-season/

    The round robin of the MLR is from 8 February to 31 May 2020.

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
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    @Stargazer knew Ranger was heading to the US just hadn't heard where...think he will be back for M10 though, hes keen to notch up his ton for Northland.

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    A few more players who have signed with Major League Teams (not all are very recent signings, so may have been mentioned before):

    Sam Beard (Canterbury) - has signed for two seasons with New England Free Jacks

    Contract duration not published:
    Boyd Wiggins (Northland): to Houston Saber Cats
    Tim Cadwallader (Manawatu): to Houston Saber Cats
    Jason Robertson (BOP): to Old Glory DC
    Danny Tusitala (Auckland): to Old Glory DC

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    Steven Harris
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #725

    @Stargazer add Northland Midfielder Blake Hohaia to the list..
    I am starting to wonder if this is an issue or a benefit..?

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    replied to Steven Harris on last edited by Stargazer
    #726

    @Steven-Harris I'm updating my list. I haven't found a signing by Blake Hohaia yet, but still have 3 teams to go.

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #727

    @Stargazer what’s your thoughts..?

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    replied to Steven Harris on last edited by taniwharugby
    #728

    @Steven-Harris TBH, neither Wiggins or HOhaia will be an issue, was very disappointed in Wiggins, had high hopes for him this year, looked a athlete for a prop, but struggled form his first scrum and never looked upto it, just vist any game thread form this seaosn to see my views on Hohaia.

    Assume both could be back for club footy next season, menaing if they were upto it, could play for NOrthland (given Hohaia is signed for next season too isnt he?)

    I know HOhaia is highly rated at club level, seems to be by his Northland team mates too, but I will be pissed if he is able to play for NOrthland next year if he doesnt play club footy.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    replied to Steven Harris on last edited by
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    @Steven-Harris

    Upside: these are all players who missed out on a SR contract (some definitely never in contention), but still have the chance to play professionally. If they do that in a competition that runs parallel to SR and finishes in May/June, they can be back in time for Mitre 10 Cup. So they're not lost to their provinces.

    Downside 1: the better players among them are lost as possible back-ups for injured SR players
    Downside 2: these players are not available for some or all of the club rugby season. So it might be detrimental to club rugby. Also, these are the club rugby players that newer/lesser players could learn from at that club rugby level.

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    #730

    Glendale Raptors re-signed Marco Fepuleai for the 2020 Major League Rugby season. The 24-year-old prop is 6’0″ and 262 lbs.

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @Tim Yep, I saw that. Only posted the new signings here. Btw, they're called the Colorado Raptors now.

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