Invitational, provincial, local & school sevens tournaments
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hmm. Just saw the end of NZ v Japan. Bit perplexed by some of the calls in the last 2 or 3 minutes. Take a look at where the kick got taken compared to where the 'high' tackle occured. (5 metres?) Bit careless by Haugh (I think), but the player was falling. Sloppy display by NZ, but that was a rough way to lose it. I thought the ref should have penalised the delayed feeds by the halfback....
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@Machpants See my post with the team naming above.
Also, see @ARHS post about the loss to Japan.
The loss to Fiji was to be expected. Whoever is in our team and their team, we seem unable to beat them. Although, it was 3 tries for and against. The difference was made by missed conversions. Kurt Baker managed to miss the easiest of easy attempts, right in front of the posts.
Particularly for the men, this is not more than a pre-season tournament. The result means zilch for the Series, just like preseason games don't mean anything for the SR or Mitre 10 Cup season.
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@Higgins said in Invitational, provincial, local & school sevens tournaments:
If it is a nothing game then they can damn well pay under a name like Barbarians or Centurions or Trout Fishers or anything other than the name they are playing under in this tournament.
This 7s team have been dragging the All Black's brand through the mud for a long time now. Did much better as NZ 7s!
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The name doesn't bother me one bit.
And to refresh some memories: the All Blacks 7s are the current (2018) World Champions and Commonwealth Champions. They also won several legs of the World Sevens Series in recent years. Plenty to be proud of, despite some disappointing results.
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@Stargazer And just to remind you of something more recent they also lost to Japan in Suva this week. You are only as good as your last result. Incidentally the last NZ coach that lost to Japan in 7s got the sack shortly after Rio. For the sake of consistency and fairness the current coach must be shaking in his boots.
And now I come to think of it didn't Japan finish last of the regular teams get relegated from the World Series 7s last year with Ireland taking their place as one of the core teams taking part? -
@Machpants said in Invitational, provincial, local & school sevens tournaments:
@Higgins said in Invitational, provincial, local & school sevens tournaments:
If it is a nothing game then they can damn well pay under a name like Barbarians or Centurions or Trout Fishers or anything other than the name they are playing under in this tournament.
This 7s team have been dragging the All Black's brand through the mud for a long time now. Did much better as NZ 7s!
And what is worse the Development 7s now seem to be playing in shirts emblazoned with New Zealand Sevens on the left breast
@Stargazer said in Hawke's Bay Sevens:Tyrone Dodd-Edwards will play for the All Blacks Sevens Development team in Japan, tomorrow. His name is missing from the AB7s Dev team list (published on 14 Feb), so maybe has come in as injury replacement (or the list is wrong; wouldn't be the first time).
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@Higgins said in Invitational, provincial, local & school sevens tournaments:
@Stargazer And just to remind you of something more recent they also lost to Japan in Suva this week. You are only as good as your last result. Incidentally the last NZ coach that lost to Japan in 7s got the sack shortly after Rio. For the sake of consistency and fairness the current coach must be shaking in his boots.
And now I come to think of it didn't Japan finish last of the regular teams get relegated from the World Series 7s last year with Ireland taking their place as one of the core teams taking part?I completely disagree with that bolded bit. Especially considering that this is not a full-strength team and it's preseason.
That loss to Japan, yesterday, means nothing. They're preparing for the season and have included several debutants in the squad (haven't you read my previous posts, including the one with the line-up?). Maybe Japan has sent a full-strength squad (I don't know)? Perhaps they should have called this the All Blacks Sevens Development team (like the Black Ferns Development team for this tournament) or the NZ Men's Development team, but as I said, I don't really care. I'm not a fair-weather supporter.
IMO, you're just overreacting/exaggerating. But each to their own.
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The Black Ferns 7s Development team will take on Australia in the Final at 4.30pm NZT.
It's called a "Pre-liminary Final" for some reason, probably because there are several separate tournaments going on, including the Olympic qualifiers. Maybe there's also an overall final.
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@Stargazer Excuse me but they are using the name given to the top sevens side. Regardless of who they field the record books will always record a loss against the team not good enough to be in the best fifteen sevens team. When historians scan the record books in fifty years time all they will see is that see the result recorded for the game played in Suva against Japan by the team carrying the name of the recognised top NZRFU team shows a seventeen fourteen loss. There will be no asterix alongside with a note recording that it might not have been the top side.
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@Higgins A good historian will also look at the composition of the team and look for names of players. A good historian will also notice that this is a tournament that isn't part of the World Series and takes place before the start of the season (i.e. preseason). A "historian" who only looks at "All Blacks 7s 14 - 17 Japan" is merely a (hobby) statistician.
