Same old Russians, always cheating
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<p>Wasn't the Spanish football team implicated in the operation Puerto scandal a few years back?</p>
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<p>From Wiki:</p>
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<p>On 5 July 2006, Fuentes was indignant that only cyclists had been named and said he also worked with tennis and football players.<sup><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operación_Puerto_doping_case#cite_note-elpais.es-2'><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a></sup> On 27 July 2006, <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Association_of_Athletics_Federations' title="International Association of Athletics Federations">IAAF</a> was assured by Spanish prosecutors that no <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Track_and_field' title="Track and field">track and field athletes</a> were involved.<sup><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operación_Puerto_doping_case#cite_note-noiaaf-56'><span>[</span>56<span>]</span></a></sup> On 23 September 2006, former cyclist <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesús_Manzano' title="Jesús Manzano">Jesús Manzano</a> told reporters from <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_3' title="France 3">France 3</a> that he had seen "well-known <a class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_football_(soccer)_players" title="Lists of football (soccer) players">footballers</a>" from <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Liga' title="La Liga">La Liga</a> visit the offices of Dr Fuentes.<sup><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operación_Puerto_doping_case#cite_note-57'><span>[</span>57<span>]</span></a></sup></p>
<p>In May 2007 <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepp_Blatter' title="Sepp Blatter">Sepp Blatter</a>, president of <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA' title="FIFA">FIFA</a>, at a <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Anti-Doping_Agency' title="World Anti-Doping Agency">World Anti-Doping Agency</a> meeting in Montreal, was reportedly interested in the contents "of the Puerto file".<sup><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operación_Puerto_doping_case#cite_note-58'><span>[</span>58<span>]</span></a></sup><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Monde' title="Le Monde">Le Monde</a> had reported in December 2006 that they had possession of documents of Fuentes detailing "seasonal preparation plans" for Spanish football clubs <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Barcelona' title="FC Barcelona">FC Barcelona</a> and <a class="" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Madrid" title="Real Madrid">Real Madrid</a>. These plans did not specifically name any players.<sup><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operación_Puerto_doping_case#cite_note-59'><span>[</span>59<span>]</span></a></sup> This news seem to be only rumors, since the French journal lost its trials in 2009 and 2011 against the FC Barcelona because it could not produce any proof of its allegations. In the ultimate judgement, on 14 November 2011, it was condemned to pay 15,000 euros of indemnity for "using false and unverified facts".<sup><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operación_Puerto_doping_case#cite_note-60'><span>[</span>60<span>]</span></a></sup></p>
<p>No other athletes had been named.</p>
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<p>Wha?</p> -
<p>why else would there be a sudden climb-down?</p>
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Russia suspended by IAAF indefinitely
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/nov/16/kenya-athletics-iaaf-drugs-in-sport-russia'>http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/nov/16/kenya-athletics-iaaf-drugs-in-sport-russia</a></p>
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<p>Kenya the next to fall?</p> -
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/nov/25/dick-pound-wada-report-explosive-wow-factor-iaaf'>http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/nov/25/dick-pound-wada-report-explosive-wow-factor-iaaf</a></p>
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<p>Lots more to come apparently, </p> -
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/74472695/welsh-rugbys-drug-problem-totally-off-the-scale'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/74472695/welsh-rugbys-drug-problem-totally-off-the-scale</a></p>
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<p>Welsh Rugby</p> -
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Welsh Rugby</p></blockquote>
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<p>Interestingly enough Poolerfan, my nephew who is in the police force in South Wales has suggested that there is a real steroid abuse problem been going on for some time - reckons they have to deal with at least one roid-rage issue every weekend. He does hasten to add this is nothing necessarily to do with rugby per se and certainly not at the top level. The slightly worrying thing is that he's not based in Cardiff or Swansea but one of the smaller towns.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Catogrande" data-cid="544799" data-time="1448621826"><p>Interestingly enough Poolerfan, my nephew who is in the police force in South Wales has suggested that there is a real steroid abuse problem been going on for some time - reckons they have to deal with at least one roid-rage issue every weekend. He does hasten to add this is nothing necessarily to do with rugby per se and certainly not at the top level. The slightly worrying thing is that he's not based in Cardiff or Swansea but one of the smaller towns.</p></blockquote>
I've played against a few "roided" up in Wales.<br>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/74632820/rugby-world-cup-doping-test-results-reveal-the-sport-is-clean--world-rugby'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/74632820/rugby-world-cup-doping-test-results-reveal-the-sport-is-clean--world-rugby</a></p>
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<p>Organisers say no positive tests have been recorded from nearly 500 doping samples collected during the Rugby World Cup.</p>
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<p>Tournament organisers have announced the results of the "intelligence-led, targeted" drug-testing programme during the World Cup, which was played in England and Wales in September and October.</p>
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<p>World Rugby says 468 urine and blood tests were carried out across all 20 teams, with 200 in-competition samples and 268 out-of-competition.</p>
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<p>"The programme has recorded no adverse analytical findings to date," World Rugby said in a statement.</p>
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<p>Samples were analysed at the World Anti-Doping Agency-accredited laboratory at King's College in London.</p>
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<p>Samples will be stored for possible future re-analysis.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/74632820/rugby-world-cup-doping-test-results-reveal-the-sport-is-clean--world-rugby'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/74632820/rugby-world-cup-doping-test-results-reveal-the-sport-is-clean--world-rugby</a></p>
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<p>They didn't get Lance to test positive either.</p> -
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<p>They didn't get Lance to test positive either.</p>
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<p>lance had top of the line docters and a much larger drugs budget. but also his testing was much more difficult to dodge. the testing they do in rugby, if you have the money you can cheat quite easily, thing is there isnt a lot of money in rugby. </p> -
<p>Big news coming out of Italy now <span style="color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"> 26 banned, 39 with cases to answer. This list is basically a "who's who" of Italian track and field over the past decade.</span></p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.eurosport.co.uk/athletics/italian-anti-doping-body-calls-for-bans-on-26-athletes_sto5012493/story.shtml'>http://www.eurosport.co.uk/athletics/italian-anti-doping-body-calls-for-bans-on-26-athletes_sto5012493/story.shtml</a></p> -
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sevens/74726492/new-zealand-womens-sevens-team-upset-by-russia-on-opening-day-in-dubai'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sevens/74726492/new-zealand-womens-sevens-team-upset-by-russia-on-opening-day-in-dubai</a></p>
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<p>its a lot easier to cheat testing than people </p>
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<p>lance had top of the line docters and a much larger drugs budget. but also his testing was much more difficult to dodge. the testing they do in rugby, if you have the money you can cheat quite easily, thing is there isnt a lot of money in rugby. </p>
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<p>Its a lot easier to beat tests than people realise </p>
