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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    If that is the thinking I would have put Ardie on the bench (again) and started Cane.

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    hasnt it always been if they are carrying a niggle, they start so you can control thier gametime better.

    My guess is, they have determined SB suits whatever plan they intend playing v England.

    SB probably carries a bit better than Cane does, so expect he's there for that? SB is a good defender, but doesnt make as many tackles and obviously doesnt hit as hard.

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    No idea of the reasons guys, just passing on the oil. Prediction has been spot on so far though, I personally would have Cane playing if fit

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    @Machpants said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Ok so donโ€™t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

    S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

    Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

    Can't say that makes any sense to me, our game has been all about the trio all year and now we go for a slower option to add height? I hope Cane is slightly injured and it's enforced because he leads our defence in the opening trench warfare.

    Yeah this, we win sith speed and a ferocious and fast loose trio. Ah well in Shag we trust, if true!

    Definitely for now, but if we lose I'm going to meltdown like a Cantabrian complaining about Mauger being left out in 07. ๐Ÿ˜‚

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    @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    No idea of the reasons guys**, just passing on the oil.** Prediction has been spot on so far though, I personally would have Cane playing if fit

    Too late, in 5 years time we'll be discussing this as the @bayimports dropped Cane.

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    @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Machpants said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Ok so donโ€™t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

    S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

    Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

    Can't say that makes any sense to me, our game has been all about the trio all year and now we go for a slower option to add height? I hope Cane is slightly injured and it's enforced because he leads our defence in the opening trench warfare.

    Yeah this, we win sith speed and a ferocious and fast loose trio. Ah well in Shag we trust, if true!

    Definitely for now, but if we lose I'm going to meltdown like a Cantabrian complaining about Mauger being left out in 07. ๐Ÿ˜‚

    It's your right as an All Black supporter

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    @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    No idea of the reasons guys**, just passing on the oil.** Prediction has been spot on so far though, I personally would have Cane playing if fit

    Too late, in 5 years time we'll be discussing this as the @bayimports dropped Cane.

    Bloody Hawkes fans ๐Ÿ˜€

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    I'm apoplectic

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    @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    hasnt it always been if they are carrying a niggle, they start so you can control thier gametime better.

    My guess is, they have determined SB suits whatever plan they intend playing v England.

    It does change the dynamic of the substitutions though because for Paddy T to come on then one of BBBR or Whitelock must be subbed, or both if SB moves to lock (VERY unlikely). It is possible that Ardie could end up at no.8 if Read's calf isn't 100% and SB remains at 6.

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    I'm hoping Shag has discovered that Eddie also reads the Fern, and has leaked this misinformation to throw him off.

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    @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    No idea of the reasons guys, just passing on the oil. Prediction has been spot on so far though, I personally would have Cane playing if fit

    So would I. I'd clone him if I could so he could take more positions - every team would give up running the ball and would kick to our famed counter attack.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    Not going to have many opportunities to fetch early in the game as big Pommy forwards flop onto every ruck. Savea at 7 provides a bit more ball carrying and still a bit of a threat on the ball.

    Plus goggles.

    Cane to come on late and fuck up the ruck

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    @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    No idea of the reasons guys**, just passing on the oil.** Prediction has been spot on so far though, I personally would have Cane playing if fit

    Too late, in 5 years time we'll be discussing this as the @bayimports dropped Cane.

    He's not dropped... his role has been changed! ๐Ÿ™‚

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    Maybe they want the extra lineout option?

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  • SiamS Offline
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    @booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Kirwan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @canefan not really, he was watching it on the big screen and thought he saw Reese touch the ball. The TMO had a screen a few inches away and corrected him, they worked together to make the right call.

    I remember hearing the exchange, nigel asked if the black player touched the ball during the tackle, the TMO said more than once that he had only to finally correct himself. I dont think he ever thought Reece had touched it but his language was poor. Right decision in the end

    Re the BB try I'm pretty certain the law was you're not offside if the ball rebounded off a player that was not playing at the ball.

    Reece was attempting a tackle and it initially appeared that the ball may have bounced forward off his head. (Obviously it didn't it as he hit Sex Toy's elbow and the ball went backward off green.)

    My query, which is now a moot point but I'm still interested, is if it had hit Reece's head would Mo'unga be offside as Reece did not play at the ball.

    My understanding is he would not have been offside. But my understanding may be either out if date, mistaken or both.

    Maybe I should ask @Damo.

    The real story in that try is some outstanding reading on defence by Sevu. The irish had us on toast with an overlap when Sevu raced in and hot it perfect. 14 point play as it turned out

    But I digress...

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  • SiamS Offline
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    #234

    Our best flanker since McGoat,* on the bench. Stinks of dry powder and a cunning plan against the poms.

    • all due respect Ardie
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  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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    The plan has to be attack their strength, outmuscle them up front and fuck with their heads

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    @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    outmuscle them up front

    oh, well if THAT'S the plan, then obviously you don't include Cane...

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  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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    @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    outmuscle them up front

    oh, well if THAT'S the plan, then obviously you don't include Cane...

    Part of that I meant set piece ,

    I guess it had to be a toss up between he and ardie , ardie running off the back may have swayed it ? both will play,

    They mustโ€™ve liked the wAy this trio closed

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  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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    Also balances out the bench I guess with Todd missing

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