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  • NTAN Offline
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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @JC said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?

    Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?

    He was brought on board to oversee selections and make sure Cheika wasn't going off on a tangent (mission: failed). At the same time, he became a selector. Apparently.

    Just another example of rugby's failures here: lack of desire to look the problem in the face.

    yea, pretty much this. Not sure how you can conduct a review of a system you were in the middle of.

    It gets better:

    Oct 20, 2019

    Time to ‘smash the wheel’. Why Wallabies crisis can’t end with Michael Cheika’s exit

    Time to ‘smash the wheel’. Why Wallabies crisis can’t end with Michael Cheika’s exit

    One of Australian rugby’s most respected voices, Rod Kafer, believes Michael Cheika shouldn’t be the only person held accountable for the Wallabies’ Rugby World Cup quarter-final exit and that sweeping changes to the Rugby Australia board must be made.

    The same Rod Kafer who was appointed to a senior position developing elite coaches but has delivered precisely jack shit.

    He's simply angling for a better job. His mate Kearns is doing the same:

    Kearns added that he would accept an invitation to be involved in the review.
    “I’d be involved in the review absolutely.

    The author is having a lend calling Kafer a "respected rugby voice". Any credibility he had disappeared years ago.

    Its Christy Doran. Pretty sure he knows fuck all about rugby. FoxSports Rugby is his first real job after 4 internships and a Master's Degree.

    wait, Christy is a dude?

    So they tell me.

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    BTW have a google at "Katy Perry Elmo Shirt"

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    I think there are problems in Australia rugby, but the blame for poor results at the top should sit primarily with Cheika. His Wallabies have consistently been worse than the sum of their parts. Poor strategy, weird selections and what appears to be a very unhealthy culture are all his fault.

    Throw him out and things will probably improve by themselves.

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    @Damo said in Aussie Rugby in general:

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    Throw him out and things will probably improve by themselves.

    Yes, but they'll just return to a level of adequacy.

    How does it actually improve for the longer term? To the point where a Bledisloe win is not only possible, but realistic?

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    replied to NTA on last edited by
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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    BTW have a google at "Katy Perry Elmo Shirt"

    Thank you

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    replied to NTA on last edited by
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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @Damo said in Aussie Rugby in general:

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    Throw him out and things will probably improve by themselves.

    Yes, but they'll just return to a level of adequacy.

    How does it actually improve for the longer term? To the point where a Bledisloe win is not only possible, but realistic?

    You probably won't ever dominate the Bledisloe, but yeah a return to the mean of winning 33% or so against us, with the odd short period of dominance would be a worthy goal.

    In my opinion the Cheika lead era has underperformed due to poor strategy and selections. The Wallabies generated enough good ball against England to score more than one try - they just had no penetration when they should have.

    Surely White, Toomua and JOC should have started on Saturday at 9, 10 and 13. Not Genia, Lilo and a 19 year old freshie.

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    More crap journalism from stuff, missing the first, clear, and obvious choice of Hammett

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116751128/ten-kiwis-who-could-coach-the-wallabies-now-michael-cheika-has-quit

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    I "could" coach the Wallabies 🤔

    But would I?

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    I'll be gutted if they nab Joseph or Razor

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    @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    I'll be gutted if they Joseph or Razor

    Both of those guys would laugh in our faces.

    "Sort out your back office" would be first request and the last conversation

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    I think John Mitchell would be great fit for the wallabies

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    replied to jegga on last edited by NTA
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    @jegga said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    I think John Mitchell would be great fit for the wallabies

    Genius!

    A journey. That is EXACTLY what we need

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    @jegga said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    I think John Mitchell would be great fit for the wallabies

    Misread the name initially. Thought you had said John Plumtree who I actually rate highly. He did a great job at the Sharks before they shafted him. But he may be too nice a guy to survive 4 years in Aussie rugby politics....

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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    I'll be gutted if they Joseph or Razor

    Both of those guys would laugh in our faces.

    "Sort out your back office" would be first request and the last conversation

    It really does need a reset. The guys coming back from the U20 tourney in Georgia were staggered. Zero organisation (they got there and had no balls, cones or other training gear...) and rampant factionalism (is that a word?) from the Super franchises back home WRT "their" players and how they were used.

    I don't know how you turn it around.

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    @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    I'll be gutted if they Joseph or Razor

    Both of those guys would laugh in our faces.

    "Sort out your back office" would be first request and the last conversation

    It really does need a reset. The guys coming back from the U20 tourney in Georgia were staggered. Zero organisation (they got there and had no balls, cones or other training gear...) and rampant factionalism (is that a word?) from the Super franchises back home WRT "their" players and how they were used.

    I don't know how you turn it around.

    I have - on multiple occasions via social media - offered my services as Benevolent-Dictator-For-Life for the paltry sum of $200k per annum plus expenses.

    Waiting to hear back.

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    replied to NTA on last edited by
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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    I'll be gutted if they Joseph or Razor

    Both of those guys would laugh in our faces.

    "Sort out your back office" would be first request and the last conversation

    It really does need a reset. The guys coming back from the U20 tourney in Georgia were staggered. Zero organisation (they got there and had no balls, cones or other training gear...) and rampant factionalism (is that a word?) from the Super franchises back home WRT "their" players and how they were used.

    I don't know how you turn it around.

    I have - on multiple occasions via social media - offered my services as Benevolent-Dictator-For-Life for the paltry sum of $200k per annum plus expenses.

    Waiting to hear back.

    If it helps, I'd pay an annual subscription to assist with this.

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    He’s got a point and the obvious guy to take charge of the wallabies is Scott Johnson.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116793446/michael-cheika-says-no-to-a-kiwi-coaching-wallabies-wants-australian-replacement

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    replied to jegga on last edited by
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    @jegga said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    He’s got a point and the obvious guy to take charge of the wallabies is Scott Johnson.

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    Rugby fossil Alan Jones said the same, but I didn't hear him suggest who they could be.

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    @Bovidae said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    Rugby fossil Alan Jones said the same, but I didn't hear him suggest who they could be.

    Because there is fucking NOBODY.

    So many cockheads in Aussie Rugby think they've got the answer, but press them on the details and its usually "Well club rugby produced RWC-winning Wallabies" or "The NRC is a waste of money" or "Nothing wrong with 3 separate schools competitions in Sydney alone because {insert speaker's school] is doing fine!"

    I keep hearing good things are in the pipeline but there's no evidence. I told our Suburban comp a decade ago that their competition structure worked for the top 2 divisions but strangled everyone else, and even sent them a three page summary of suggestions. Only now are they doing something about it after one top division team forfeited three grades + colts from mid-season.

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