World Cup Final match thread
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<p>On another point, watching some of it again last night and I don't think I have ever seen such a good start to a test match from the ABs as that.</p>
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<ul><li>Ball claimed from kickoff cleanly</li>
<li>Perfectly placed kick</li>
<li>Perfectly timed smashing tackle from Kaino and Australia already under the pump.</li>
<li>They spread it wide and a perfect behind the gain line hit by Conrad. Australia go the other way.</li>
<li>BBBR charges down the attempted clearance from the ruck.</li>
<li>Even without the luck of the ball being touched by Australia after the chargedown this was an incredible forceback.</li>
<li>Lineout perfect quickball followed by big linebreak by Nonu. It gets better!</li>
<li>Then came the first error, which was Smith passing the ball into Whitelock.</li>
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<p>Actually, if you watch it Smith had an opportunity to milk one at that very ruck. At the time I couldn't work out how they managed to screw it up so badly, but watching again, Smith approaches the ruck, checks where DC is then Whitelock arrives, a lazy runner wanders back through the channel and Owens stands very close to the intended path as well. When Smith looks up he seems to instinctively realise he will now have to thread the needle to get the ball to DC so attempts a really hard pass in front of Whitelock instead and misjudges it.</p>
<p>The channel was clear, then in the time he reached for the ball he had 3 people all in the way. One from each team plus the ref.</p> -
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<p>I'm not trying to re-referee the match, but for every grizzle someone might make one way there is probably an equal the other.</p>
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<p>Yes, a forward pass led to a penalty that was kicked over. But in the ABs second foray into the Oz 22, AAC blatantly comes in the side of a ruck and claims the ball. Right in front of the posts. Missed by the refs just as the forward pass was.</p>
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<p>I would be pretty sure that if you took away the incidents that the ref may have decided to not blow due to materiality and counted up the clear and obvious infringements that were missed they would probably balance out.</p>
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<p>Plus dubious that Ben Smith's knock on that gave Oz its first penalty actually touched his hands, but who cares. The history books will record 34-17 and that's what matters</p> -
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<p>Of course I can see why Aussies would be pissed off, but that doesn't mean that we got the rub of the green as you contended, and whether or not Aussies were pissed off wasn't what we were discussing.</p>
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<p>I bring Kepu up because that's a case of Aus getting a really big rub of the green. I don't care that he wasn't binned, I'd rather games were 15 on 15, but as I said Kepu staying on is rub of the green.</p>
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<p>Perhaps we don't have the same understanding of 'rub of the green'.</p>
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<p>In that case, maybe we should just enjoy a great win.</p> -
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<p>Is it YouTube that's caused all these dissections of the refs performances? It seems a recent thing.</p>
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<p>Nah, 'twas always thus.</p>
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<p>Officiating has always been under microscope. In all sports. Since ever. And way before youtube.</p> -
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<p>I saw this on the Veitchy on Sport facebook page, the comments are hilarious, looks like about 60% of commenters are outraged while another 20% think its some sort of scam...if that is indicative of kiwi intellect then we are in serious trouble! Time to unlike Veitchy I think..I do not need to be reminded that these people are in our midst.</p> -
<p>It's not Kiwis bro, look at who have been bidding for it!</p>
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<p>I saw this on the Veitchy on Sport facebook page, the comments are hilarious, looks like about 60% of commenters are outraged while another 20% think its some sort of scam...if that is indicative of kiwi intellect then we are in serious trouble! Time to unlike Veitchy I think..I do not need to be reminded that these people are in our midst.</p>
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<p>did they not see the bidders list? Hilarious</p> -
<p>(i thought trademe was nz-only bidders? did they change their policy...? if so, maybe i'll stop using me mum's paraparaumu address for bids, heh-heh)</p>
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<p>I'm pretty sure that's wrong, because the first person to be shown the Yellow in a World Cup was, believe it or not...</p>
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<p>John Eales.</p>
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<p>This was in 1999, before you went off the field for 10 minutes when it was given. Got done for punching a Frenchie.</p>
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<p>If so, I assume they are meaning Smith is the first player to spend 10 mins in the naughty chair in a RWC final.</p> -
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<p>did they not see the bidders list? Hilarious</p>
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<p>There were many things they did not see..or in fact 'want' to see as that would get in the way of a good righteous outrage. </p> -
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<p>Forgot to mention the after match reactions and comments from <strong>Moore, Cheika </strong>and Lynagh were exemplary.<br><br>
Respect</p>
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<p>I made that comment on FB and while the overwhelming majority agreed, still some numpties who have obviously never felt bitter disappointment and then been confronted by people asking anal questions and expecting you to be happy and positive in your responses.</p> -
<p>Once again the Auckland Council show themselves to be as farking useful as tits on a bull with their organising of a 'parade' for 12pm at Victoria Park.</p>
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<p>Thought I'd take the kids for a look.. what a bl00dy hassle that will be. The park is right across the road from my office but how the hell do I get the kids there.</p>
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<p>Expect half the people thinking of hitting the parade will go hmm I'll head to airport instead before work and school. And that will be absolute mayhem cause it's traffic carnage at that time of the day already.</p>
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<p>It's daylight savings. they could have done it after work, let every who wants to avoid traffic go out, everyone else come in.. then we could have all had another celebrationary beer after.</p> -
Organising such an event in the CBD district in itself is no easy feat. There will always be an inconvenience.
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<p>Just out of interest. How would you invisage a parade in the CBD district, to suit you Willie?</p>
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<p>open top bus from bottom of queen st to aotea sq would be the easiest.. queen st actually pretty quiet in terms of traffic</p>
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Yeah, I guess. There are those in other parts of NZ voicing their dissapointment because they won't have a parade.<br><br>
Steve Tew was very apologetic and spoke about the logistics but promised to do something at a later stage. <br><br>
Dunedin and Hamilton. New Plymouth, Tauraunga, Eketahuna. You know what I mean.<br><br>
Steve went on to mention that the ABs would like to get home, having been away for so long.<br><br>
Well Steve, on one hand I sympathize, on the other, they are generously remunerated and sould parade.<br><br>
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<p>... but not by me or you.</p>
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<p>I wanted them to do just one thing, and they've done it. Let them go and see their families.</p>
