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  • HoorooH Do not disturb
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    #73

    England confirmed

    15 Elliot Daly (Saracens, 36 caps)

    14 Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, 39 caps)

    13 Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 23 caps)

    12 Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers, 37 caps)

    11 Jonny May (Leicester Tigers, 49 caps)

    10 Owen Farrell (Saracens, 76 caps) C

    9 Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 92 caps)

    1 Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 55 caps)

    2 Jamie George (Saracens, 42 caps)

    3 Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 28 caps)

    4 Maro Itoje (Saracens, 31 caps)

    5 Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 78 caps)

    6 Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 16 caps)

    7 Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby, 12 caps)

    8 Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 48 caps)

    Reserves

    16 Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 18 caps)

    17 Joe Marler (Harlequins, 65 caps)

    18 Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 92 caps)

    19 George Kruis (Saracens, 38 caps)

    20 Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints, 5 caps)

    21 Willi Heinz (Gloucester Rugby, 7 caps)

    22 George Ford (Leicester Tigers, 62 caps)

    23 Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby, 44 caps)

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    #74

    I note the reserves are called finishers in the official press release.

    Lawes ahead of Kruis is a little surprising, although I rate the former player.

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    Interesting for me they choose to leave Ford on the bench. Bash n barge it is, then look to finish us off with pace.

    Run at Farrell all day until the red card achievement is unlocked.

    Maybe it'll be red for Kerevi fending him off. Who knows? #wheelofskeen

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    #76

    Two very similar teams IMHO - England have picked a big bopper at 8 and two flankers similar in size to Pooper.

    Their tight 5 isn't quite as tall as ours but I'm sure they'll have their shit together.

    Ages:

    STARTING XV - 26.6 (Oz 26.9)

    • Tight Five - 27.2 (Oz 26.2)
    • Forwards - 25.8 (Oz 26.6)
    • Backs - 27.6 (Oz 27.1)

    BENCH VIII - 28.1 (Oz 26.6)

    • Forwards - 27.8 (Oz 25.2)
    • Backs - 28.7 (Oz 29)

    MATCH DAY XXIII - 27.1 (Oz 26.8)

    Oldest: Heinz/Cole @ 32 (Lawes/Youngs 30) v Pocock @ 31 (Slipper and Beale are 30)
    Youngest: Curry @ 21 (Underhill 23, Itoje 24) v Petaia @ 19 (Uelese 22, Rodda 23)

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    @KiwiMurph said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @voodoo It's definitely risky but I don't see that many great alternative options. JOC is not a 13 himself. Kerevi and TK have never worked as a combo. Petaia looks like the best back prospect that has come through the Aussie system in 10 years - he's one of their best talents they have so I think they are much better off with him out there rather than being too cautious and wondering what if. Wallabies have lost something like 6 test matches in a row against England so what they have been doing hasn't been working.

    Yeah I reckon that had to look for more x Factor Petata seems to have some they can’t die wondering good selection I think.

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    Remember this game is under a roof as well. I think Wallabies might be going with a high tempo gameplan.

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    Forward packs:

    Tight Five total weight: ENG 581kg v AUS 590kg
    Forward Pack total weight: ENG 920kg v AUS 916kg (B Vunipola listed at 130kg is the main difference)
    Back Five average height: ENG 191cm v AUS 194cm

    Can barely fit a struck match between them.

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    @KiwiMurph said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @voodoo Petaia also played outside centre in the NRC last year.

    It’s where he is best placed because he actually has good vision.

    Wasted on the wing.

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    Could be an inspired decision. Probably offers more than Kuridrani, but Kuridrani is a pretty good defender.

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    As predicted from Day 1, Farrell to 10 when the real games start.

    Very surprised Slade starts before Joseph. Very little game time for Slade.

    Could come back to haunt Eddie.

    And think Manu is more effective at 13 when put in a bit of space rather than 12 and trying to bash to make space.

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    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Could be an inspired decision. Probably offers more than Kuridrani, but Kuridrani is a pretty good defender.

    He's good in contact, but he makes bad decisions on defence and leaves holes.

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  • J Offline
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    @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Interesting for me they choose to leave Ford on the bench. Bash n barge it is, then look to finish us off with pace.

    Run at Farrell all day until the red card achievement is unlocked.

    Maybe it'll be red for Kerevi fending him off. Who knows? #wheelofskeen

    I reckon England have made a clear selection to get Kerevi running closer in towards the big boys and to protect the Ford-Farrell axis - early win for the Aussies forcing the Poms to change their team?

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    @junior said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Interesting for me they choose to leave Ford on the bench. Bash n barge it is, then look to finish us off with pace.

    Run at Farrell all day until the red card achievement is unlocked.

    Maybe it'll be red for Kerevi fending him off. Who knows? #wheelofskeen

    I reckon England have made a clear selection to get Kerevi running closer in towards the big boys and to protect the Ford-Farrell axis - early win for the Aussies forcing the Poms to change their team?

    I reckon they'll be using Tuilagi against Lilo in much the same way, which was probably always their plan against us. Ford/Farrell against Wales.

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    Why has Cheika decided to ditch James O'Connor and go with Petaia all of a sudden?
    Desperation move or planned?

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    #87

    Hodge and Beale are baffling selections. Look for a lot of high ball kicked to the defensively poor Beale.

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    @Frank said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Why has Cheika decided to ditch James O'Connor and go with Petaia all of a sudden?
    Desperation move or planned?

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    @canefan said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @Frank said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Why has Cheika decided to ditch James O'Connor and go with Petaia all of a sudden?
    Desperation move or planned?

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    Heads or this random selection

    Wallabies team to play England in RWC quarter-final
    Scott Sio
    Tolu Latu
    Allan Alaalatoa
    Izack Rodda
    Rory Arnold
    David Pocock
    Michael Hooper (c)
    Isi Naisarani
    Will Genia
    Christian Lealiifano
    Marika Koroibete
    Samu Kerevi
    Jordan Petaia
    Reece Hodge
    Kurtley Beale

    Bench

    Jordan Uelese
    James Slipper
    Taniela Tupou
    Adam Coleman
    Lukhan Salakaia-Loto
    Nic White
    Matt Toomua
    James O’Connor

    https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/10/17/wallabies-rwc-quarter-final-team-selection-vs-england-heedless-of-the-opposition-michael-cheika-rearranges-the-deck-chairs-once-again/

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    Buggered if I understand that Aussie team.

    James O'Connor has been playing well and the Aussie backline has looked better every time that Toomua has come on.

    This Petaia must be an absolute superstar in the making to be starting in a world cup knockout over both of these guys. I know nothing of him really, so can't offer much comment.

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  • Billy WebbB Offline
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    @MajorRage maybe Cheika is "keeping his powder dry" for the last 30 minutes?

    p.s. keeping powder dry must be the most over-used phrase I keep seeing re this RWC...

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    Beale has been shit under high ball
    Jordan very inexperienced at test level and in centre position. Trickiest decision making position given to the youngest guy for ever
    Maybe not a problem cos Samu never passes
    9 and 10 only played together once before
    Forwards look good tho

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