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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    @Bones said in Judiciary Happenings:

    @voodoo so if a player gets a red card, they shouldn't be further sanctioned?

    Yes, that's absolutely what he said. And everyone here agrees too.

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    @mariner4life said in Judiciary Happenings:

    @Bones said in Judiciary Happenings:

    @voodoo so if a player gets a red card, they shouldn't be further sanctioned?

    Yes, that's absolutely what he said. And everyone here agrees too.

    He's already replied, but thanks.

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    @Bones said in Judiciary Happenings:

    @voodoo so if a player gets a red card, they shouldn't be further sanctioned?

    depends on the incident - obvious foul play (think the Italians tip tackle) at least three weeks versus a clumsy tackle - off for the remainder of the game or the following game if it occurs late in the game.

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    @Nevorian said in Judiciary Happenings:

    @Bones said in Judiciary Happenings:

    @voodoo so if a player gets a red card, they shouldn't be further sanctioned?

    depends on the incident - obvious foul play (think the Italians tip tackle) at least three weeks versus a clumsy tackle - off for the remainder of the game or the following game if it occurs late in the game.

    The sanctions are already different for the different "types" of foul play. They also have a different scale within those sanctions for Top/Mid/Low range.

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    Tonga hooker Paula Ngauamo suspended for seven weeks

    The disciplinary hearing in relation to the citing of Tonga hooker Paula Ngauamo for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.12 (kicking) in their Rugby World Cup 2019 Pool C match against USA took place in Tokyo on 15 October.
    
    The independent Judicial Committee was chaired by Alan Hudson (Canada) joined by former international player Stefan Terblanche (South Africa) and former referee Valeriu Toma (Romania).
    
    The player admitted that he had kicked his opponent in the face and accepted this was at least mid-range offending as he had made contact with his opponent’s head.
    
    The committee agreed and applied World Rugby’s mandatory minimum mid-range entry point, which was introduced in 2017 to protect player welfare, deter high contact and prevent head injuries. This resulted in a starting point of an eight-week suspension.
    
    Taking into account the mitigating factors that are considered in relation to sanction, including the player’s early admission and disciplinary record, the committee reduced the eight-week entry point by one week, resulting in a sanction of seven weeks.
    
    Ngauamo is returning to Tonga today prior to resuming club duty with Agen in the Top 14. The player will be suspended for his next seven weeks of club rugby on his return to France.
    

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    Only 1 week deduction for the player’s early admission and disciplinary record. Not 50%, I wonder why? 🤔 (the full decision hasn't been published, yet).

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    @Stargazer said in Judiciary Happenings:

    Only 1 week deduction for the player’s early admission and disciplinary record. Not 50%, I wonder why? 🤔 (the full decision hasn't been published, yet).

    You can only assume he has previous form.

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    @Stargazer @Bovidae and he kicked a bloke in the face. How that is due any mitigation is beyond me

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    @mooshld said in Judiciary Happenings:

    There is one thing I can't quite grasp

    Well you bloody better otherwise its a shoulder charge.

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    @NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:

    @Stargazer @Bovidae and he kicked a bloke in the face. How that is due any mitigation is beyond me

    I've tried finding a clip of it; maybe it was completely accidental? I'm not going to form an opinion without knowing the facts. Still waiting for the full decision to become available.

    I think if it had been deliberate, they would have started at a top-end entry-point of 12 weeks (or higher), not a mid-range entry point of 6 weeks.

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    @Stargazer said in Judiciary Happenings:

    Tonga hooker Paula Ngauamo suspended for seven weeks

    The disciplinary hearing in relation to the citing of Tonga hooker Paula Ngauamo for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.12 (kicking) in their Rugby World Cup 2019 Pool C match against USA took place in Tokyo on 15 October.
    
    The independent Judicial Committee was chaired by Alan Hudson (Canada) joined by former international player Stefan Terblanche (South Africa) and former referee Valeriu Toma (Romania).
    
    The player admitted that he had kicked his opponent in the face and accepted this was at least mid-range offending as he had made contact with his opponent’s head.
    
    The committee agreed and applied World Rugby’s mandatory minimum mid-range entry point, which was introduced in 2017 to protect player welfare, deter high contact and prevent head injuries. This resulted in a starting point of an eight-week suspension.
    
    Taking into account the mitigating factors that are considered in relation to sanction, including the player’s early admission and disciplinary record, the committee reduced the eight-week entry point by one week, resulting in a sanction of seven weeks.
    
    Ngauamo is returning to Tonga today prior to resuming club duty with Agen in the Top 14. The player will be suspended for his next seven weeks of club rugby on his return to France.
    

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    Only 1 week deduction for the player’s early admission and disciplinary record. Not 50%, I wonder why? 🤔 (the full decision hasn't been published, yet).

    Previous form and he didn;t turn up to the court session, or whatever it's called. Dipshit

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    @Stargazer said in Judiciary Happenings:

    I'm not going to form an opinion without knowing the facts.

    Then you have no place around here pal

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    @voodoo said in Judiciary Happenings:

    @Stargazer said in Judiciary Happenings:

    I'm not going to form an opinion without knowing the facts.

    Then you have no place around here pal

    Nerds out!!!

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    @voodoo alt text

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    @Stargazer : :face_with_stuck-out_tongue:

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    that doesn't look like an official image, I'll wait for confirmation

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    @mariner4life said in Judiciary Happenings:

    that doesn't look like an official image, I'll wait for confirmation

    Fucking hell Skeen haven't you caused enough trouble?

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    replied to Machpants on last edited by
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    @Machpants Yep, stupid. He could have asked for a different date & time for the disciplinary hearing, if the initial appointment didn't suit him because of his travel. The cited Uruguayan did that, too. His French club won't be happy.

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    replied to NTA on last edited by
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    @NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:

    @mariner4life said in Judiciary Happenings:

    that doesn't look like an official image, I'll wait for confirmation

    Fucking hell Skeen haven't you caused enough trouble?

    I'm just going to show you another angle

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    Some high quality piss taking today on several threads.

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    replied to Snowy on last edited by NTA
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    @Snowy said in Judiciary Happenings:

    Some high quality piss taking today on several threads.

    When we're bored, this happens...

    🤔

    Or the Politics thread gives the mods a migraine...

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