World Cup Final match thread
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<p>This is the paper that's been printing the manatees cheap shots for 20 years or so right?</p>
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<p>Jones is in The Times...</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="537953" data-time="1446359734"><p>Presentation of the silver medals came up again on the Fox feed just now - when Cheika got his medal you could see he was shattered, but the Aussies in the crowd gave a roar.<br><br>
Fucking miracle worker disguised as a Lebanese brickie.<br><br><img src="http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2015/11/01/1227589/864033-ff875a4a-8030-11e5-a5c8-de3ffc01720c.jpg" alt="864033-ff875a4a-8030-11e5-a5c8-de3ffc017"></p></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="538084" data-time="1446400736"><p>In the middle of this photo is quite possibly the most Australian looking person ever.<br><br><br><img src="http://i1.wp.com/www.whaleoil.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/2DFB448200000578-3298281-image-a-159_1446319025405-630x446.jpg?fit=630%2C446" alt="2DFB448200000578-3298281-image-a-159_144"></p></blockquote>
The drunk nun with a beard? -
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<p>So many of our players had buggar all minutes too: Taylor, Fekitoa, <strong>Messam</strong>, Romano, TJP, Slade, Naholo </p>
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<p>Enough for Messam to join Mils Muliaina as the only player to have won the full set of rugby medals/titles on offer:</p>
<ul><li>RWC winner</li>
<li>Super Rugby title</li>
<li>NPC title</li>
<li>Ranfurly Shield winner</li>
<li>Commonwealth Games Sevens Gold medal</li>
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<p>I wonder if Aaron Smith can sing? Footage of him doing a version of "We are the Champions" in the sheds afterwards would be solid gold</p>
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<p>Someone is celebrating waaaayyy too much! :good1:</p> -
With all the talk of the 'pool of death', I reckon the AB's had a far harder path to win the World Cup than what the aussies did. <br><br>
The aussies had England, Wales, Scotland and Argentina on their way to a thumping in the final.<br><br>
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<p>He has been good value this tournament I feel, in the comms and his piece on CGW breakfast, hopefully for the former it is a turning point.</p>
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<p>I watched the match live with Brit commentary. Then the replay in Spanish. Later I watched the highlight packages with Nisbo and Meg, and have to say Meg sounded like the least impartial colour announcer ever. He didn't sound like a professional commentator, on those highlights he sounded more like a porn star having orgasms.</p> -
<p>Do people not understand the concept of the 'pool of death'?</p>
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<p>Even if we lost to Argentina, we were still through provided we were able to take care of the mighty Namibia, Georgia and Tonga. This gave us the luxury of cruising through pool play, so we only have to be mentally 'up' for 3 games.</p>
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<p>Wallabies, England and Wales had to be 'up' from the get go or risk not leaving their pool.</p>
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<p>That is a tougher road to the final then what the All Blacks had.</p> -
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One of the saddest things to have happened to sports journalism in the UK is the decline of the <em>Daily Telegraph</em>.. A few years ago it was simply outstanding with its insight and writing quality - now it's simply shoddy writing and click-bait</p></blockquote>
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<p>rewatching it for the umpteenth time, can't fathom how Kepu stayed on the pitch. Late tackle on Carter (marginal but preventable, penalty only correct call), high swinging arm on Carter a few minutes later (clear yellow), high tackle on McCaw just after he passed it to NMS for the try (penalty or another YC for repeated foul play infringements), high tackle on NMS just before the Nonu try, when SBW threw his first offload on the game, follwing up with completely unnecessary raking across the face. That fucker should have seen red.</p>
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<p>Thought Smith's yellow was just that. Astonishing he was going to go for penalty only at first.</p>
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<p>Thought the forward pass was marginal, probably flat (as in "Genia flat") was made to look bad because he passed just before coming to a full stop, so of course ball still has the momentum and still travels 35 kph forwards when passed. Seems this momentum concept is hard to grasp for the majority of rugby journos. There definitely was a knock on by Coles just after Retallick dropped it backwards in midfield a few moments before the NMS try, though.</p>
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<p>At 38:25, just before the NMS try there was a ruck where I thought Owens might penalise ABs for holding on, but obviously neither Fardy nor Pocock were on their feet supporting their own bodyweight, so I think it sshould have been advantage ABs for playing the ball off their feet. I'd see it the other way around were I a Wallabies supporter, mind...</p>
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<p>There was a break from Mitchell that came from a pretty suspect Beale pass (Mitchell ran a great line, though), which looked more forward to me. (47:48 match time).</p>
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<p>When McCaw got back there and won the turnover fair and square, how the Wallabies weren't penalised there and even got the scrum put in is beyond me. </p>
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<p>In the subsequent scrum, the whole Wallabies back five disintegrated and became unbound, but no penalty advantage was played, which I thought was very weird, though it would have been advantage over, as NMS made quite a few metres before the Beale intercept.</p>
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<p>Whitelock lucky when he (probably deliberately) tripped Mitchell as he dropped the ball for the Barrett try, very sneaky.</p>
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<p>Overall don't think Owens had a great game, but outcome and margin a fair reflection of the game. Wallabies barely hung in there in the 1st 40 and never really looked threatening, apart from their two tries. Their second try was very well done, though. Realizing the space unoccupied by the missing fullback and smart kick and chase. Was a lot more nervous in the semi against SA, Wallabies backline looked pretty impotent yesterday, and their forwards got smashed at the contact points.</p> -
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<p>I watched the match live with Brit commentary. Then the replay in Spanish. Later I watched the highlight packages with Nisbo and Meg, and have to say Meg sounded like the least impartial colour announcer ever. He didn't sound like a professional commentator, on those highlights he sounded more like a porn star having orgasms.</p>
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<p>Marshall has really made an effort to be impartial this year when commentating AB games, often taking the contrary view of the other commentators. But in the final the Mataura bogan got the better of him and he became a supporter like the rest of us. I'm sure we can forgive him. :mocking:</p> -
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<p>With all the talk of the 'pool of death', I reckon the AB's had a far harder path to win the World Cup than what the aussies did.<br><br>
The aussies had England, Wales, Scotland and Argentina on their way to a thumping in the final.<br><br>
The AB's had to beat each of the other semi-finalist to win the World Cup. Much harder track in my view.</p>
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<p>You're probably alone in thinking that.</p> -
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<p>This is the paper that's been printing the manatees cheap shots for 20 years or so right?</p>
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<p>That's the Sunday Times.</p>
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<p>TBF, The other writers on the Sunday Times - Stuart Barnes, Fitzy, Lynagh & David Walsh are pretty reasonable</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="538128" data-time="1446410659"><p>Enough for Messam to join Mils Muliaina as the only player to have won the full set of rugby medals/titles on offer:</p><ul class="bbc"><li>RWC winner</li><li>Super Rugby title</li><li>NPC title</li><li>Ranfurly Shield winner</li><li>Commonwealth Games Sevens Gold medal</li></ul>
And an Olympic Games Sevens gold medal is also a possibility. Not bad.</blockquote>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tordah" data-cid="538147" data-time="1446414841"><p>Whitelock lucky when he (probably deliberately) tripped Mitchell as he dropped the ball for the Barrett try, very sneaky.</p></blockquote>
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You know I've seen this mentioned a few times so had to go and watch it 3-4 times to see what people were on about. <br><br>
What a beat up. Whitelock makes a tackle and there is a collision of bodies. There was no ruck but just Mitchell falling over Sam. Nothing more to it. -
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<p>Enough for Messam to join Mils Muliaina as the only player to have won the full set of rugby medals/titles on offer:</p>
<ul><li>RWC winner</li>
<li>Super Rugby title</li>
<li>NPC title</li>
<li>Ranfurly Shield winner</li>
<li>Commonwealth Games Sevens Gold medal</li>
</ul><p>And an Olympic Games Sevens gold medal is also a possibility. Not bad.</p>
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<p>Needs to stick around for a sevens world cup. </p> -
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<p>Do people not understand the concept of the 'pool of death'?</p>
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<p>Even if we lost to Argentina, we were still through provided we were able to take care of the mighty Namibia, Georgia and Tonga. This gave us the luxury of cruising through pool play, so we only have to be mentally 'up' for 3 games.</p>
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<p>Wallabies, England and Wales had to be 'up' from the get go or risk not leaving their pool.</p>
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<p>That is a tougher road to the final then what the All Blacks had.</p>
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<p>Ted actually said before the tournament , he would prefer Australias draw than NZs , </p>
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<p>To come into the finals battle hardened , with 2 relatively easy finals, he thought would be better than an easy pool ,and then with what seemed like 2 more difficult finals in France and SA when you could be underdone . </p>
