RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B)
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@Steven-Harris said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@MajorRage what’s really funny was all the ball and field position the Boks had in the first 20 minutes , and their game plan consisted of bashing into contact...
It’s all very well to highlight decisions that don’t go your way..but if you look inwardly.
Ask themselves this question..what could we have done better when we had ball in hand...?,it’s was only when you were down 3-17 that you managed to get some ball in the hands of Cheslin Kolbe..
They probably had the most dangerous back on the paddock ,but in the first 20 minutes you reverted to Type..
I think they need to Take a bit of responsibility and look at your own teams performance.SA, along with a number of other teams, play old style rugby. Why should they not try to expand their gameplan? I know they tried it a few years ago and gave it away when there was a coaching change. My basic understanding is that at CC level they play much more open, and the Lions Stormers and Sharks certainly try to play open at times. They shouldn't forget that back in the day we were the major exponents of 10 man rugby and at one time Wales led the way with running rugby. Perhaps their fans should ask why they persist with anti-rugby when they should be capable of much more?
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Steven-Harris said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@MajorRage what’s really funny was all the ball and field position the Boks had in the first 20 minutes , and their game plan consisted of bashing into contact...
It’s all very well to highlight decisions that don’t go your way..but if you look inwardly.
Ask themselves this question..what could we have done better when we had ball in hand...?,it’s was only when you were down 3-17 that you managed to get some ball in the hands of Cheslin Kolbe..
They probably had the most dangerous back on the paddock ,but in the first 20 minutes you reverted to Type..
I think they need to Take a bit of responsibility and look at your own teams performance.SA, along with a number of other teams, play old style rugby. Why should they not try to expand their gameplan? I know they tried it a few years ago and gave it away when there was a coaching change. My basic understanding is that at CC level they play much more open, and the Lions Stormers and Sharks certainly try to play open at times. They shouldn't forget that back in the day we were the major exponents of 10 man rugby and at one time Wales led the way with running rugby. Perhaps their fans should ask why they persist with anti-rugby when they should be capable of much more?
Anti-rugby? What a load of rubbish. Ten-man rugby is a perfectly valid style of rugby.
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@Kirwan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Steven-Harris said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@MajorRage what’s really funny was all the ball and field position the Boks had in the first 20 minutes , and their game plan consisted of bashing into contact...
It’s all very well to highlight decisions that don’t go your way..but if you look inwardly.
Ask themselves this question..what could we have done better when we had ball in hand...?,it’s was only when you were down 3-17 that you managed to get some ball in the hands of Cheslin Kolbe..
They probably had the most dangerous back on the paddock ,but in the first 20 minutes you reverted to Type..
I think they need to Take a bit of responsibility and look at your own teams performance.SA, along with a number of other teams, play old style rugby. Why should they not try to expand their gameplan? I know they tried it a few years ago and gave it away when there was a coaching change. My basic understanding is that at CC level they play much more open, and the Lions Stormers and Sharks certainly try to play open at times. They shouldn't forget that back in the day we were the major exponents of 10 man rugby and at one time Wales led the way with running rugby. Perhaps their fans should ask why they persist with anti-rugby when they should be capable of much more?
Anti-rugby? What a load of rubbish. Ten-man rugby is a perfectly valid style of rugby.
Agree, there are many ways to win a rugby game. I'd be perfectly happy for the All Blacks to play 10 man rugby if it resulted in success.
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@DMX more speed across the park is where I think they want it. Good set defences are hard to break, but if teams are going to kick to us (even shallow kicks) then quickness is what will diffuse it.
Even if it’s a so called grind, we still have the defensive game and what limited opportunities there are we will have the team to take them.
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To be fair, for the Boks it’s 9-man rugby given Faf does a lot of the kicking from the base and Pollard less so 😎
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@SammyC said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Kirwan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Steven-Harris said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@MajorRage what’s really funny was all the ball and field position the Boks had in the first 20 minutes , and their game plan consisted of bashing into contact...
It’s all very well to highlight decisions that don’t go your way..but if you look inwardly.
Ask themselves this question..what could we have done better when we had ball in hand...?,it’s was only when you were down 3-17 that you managed to get some ball in the hands of Cheslin Kolbe..
They probably had the most dangerous back on the paddock ,but in the first 20 minutes you reverted to Type..
I think they need to Take a bit of responsibility and look at your own teams performance.SA, along with a number of other teams, play old style rugby. Why should they not try to expand their gameplan? I know they tried it a few years ago and gave it away when there was a coaching change. My basic understanding is that at CC level they play much more open, and the Lions Stormers and Sharks certainly try to play open at times. They shouldn't forget that back in the day we were the major exponents of 10 man rugby and at one time Wales led the way with running rugby. Perhaps their fans should ask why they persist with anti-rugby when they should be capable of much more?
Anti-rugby? What a load of rubbish. Ten-man rugby is a perfectly valid style of rugby.
Agree, there are many ways to win a rugby game. I'd be perfectly happy for the All Blacks to play 10 man rugby if it resulted in success.
But I'm happy that we are a little more progressive than that
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@SammyC said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Kirwan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Steven-Harris said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@MajorRage what’s really funny was all the ball and field position the Boks had in the first 20 minutes , and their game plan consisted of bashing into contact...
It’s all very well to highlight decisions that don’t go your way..but if you look inwardly.
Ask themselves this question..what could we have done better when we had ball in hand...?,it’s was only when you were down 3-17 that you managed to get some ball in the hands of Cheslin Kolbe..
They probably had the most dangerous back on the paddock ,but in the first 20 minutes you reverted to Type..
I think they need to Take a bit of responsibility and look at your own teams performance.SA, along with a number of other teams, play old style rugby. Why should they not try to expand their gameplan? I know they tried it a few years ago and gave it away when there was a coaching change. My basic understanding is that at CC level they play much more open, and the Lions Stormers and Sharks certainly try to play open at times. They shouldn't forget that back in the day we were the major exponents of 10 man rugby and at one time Wales led the way with running rugby. Perhaps their fans should ask why they persist with anti-rugby when they should be capable of much more?
Anti-rugby? What a load of rubbish. Ten-man rugby is a perfectly valid style of rugby.
Agree, there are many ways to win a rugby game. I'd be perfectly happy for the All Blacks to play 10 man rugby if it resulted in success.
But I'm happy that we are a little more progressive than that
Is that a George Bridge reference?
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@booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@SammyC said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Kirwan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Steven-Harris said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@MajorRage what’s really funny was all the ball and field position the Boks had in the first 20 minutes , and their game plan consisted of bashing into contact...
It’s all very well to highlight decisions that don’t go your way..but if you look inwardly.
Ask themselves this question..what could we have done better when we had ball in hand...?,it’s was only when you were down 3-17 that you managed to get some ball in the hands of Cheslin Kolbe..
They probably had the most dangerous back on the paddock ,but in the first 20 minutes you reverted to Type..
I think they need to Take a bit of responsibility and look at your own teams performance.SA, along with a number of other teams, play old style rugby. Why should they not try to expand their gameplan? I know they tried it a few years ago and gave it away when there was a coaching change. My basic understanding is that at CC level they play much more open, and the Lions Stormers and Sharks certainly try to play open at times. They shouldn't forget that back in the day we were the major exponents of 10 man rugby and at one time Wales led the way with running rugby. Perhaps their fans should ask why they persist with anti-rugby when they should be capable of much more?
Anti-rugby? What a load of rubbish. Ten-man rugby is a perfectly valid style of rugby.
Agree, there are many ways to win a rugby game. I'd be perfectly happy for the All Blacks to play 10 man rugby if it resulted in success.
But I'm happy that we are a little more progressive than that
Is that a George Bridge reference?
No. Why?
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@NTA said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@KiwiPie said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:That last paragraph is a thing of beauty!
In spite of the spelling mistake? Or because of it?
Definitely and maybe only because of it!
Think of it like a shit that has the wind to come across the rear port quarter
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@dogmeat said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Could get quite messy for anyone astern on a lee tack though
those aren't even real words!
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@SammyC said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Kirwan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Steven-Harris said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@MajorRage what’s really funny was all the ball and field position the Boks had in the first 20 minutes , and their game plan consisted of bashing into contact...
It’s all very well to highlight decisions that don’t go your way..but if you look inwardly.
Ask themselves this question..what could we have done better when we had ball in hand...?,it’s was only when you were down 3-17 that you managed to get some ball in the hands of Cheslin Kolbe..
They probably had the most dangerous back on the paddock ,but in the first 20 minutes you reverted to Type..
I think they need to Take a bit of responsibility and look at your own teams performance.SA, along with a number of other teams, play old style rugby. Why should they not try to expand their gameplan? I know they tried it a few years ago and gave it away when there was a coaching change. My basic understanding is that at CC level they play much more open, and the Lions Stormers and Sharks certainly try to play open at times. They shouldn't forget that back in the day we were the major exponents of 10 man rugby and at one time Wales led the way with running rugby. Perhaps their fans should ask why they persist with anti-rugby when they should be capable of much more?
Anti-rugby? What a load of rubbish. Ten-man rugby is a perfectly valid style of rugby.
Agree, there are many ways to win a rugby game. I'd be perfectly happy for the All Blacks to play 10 man rugby if it resulted in success.
But I'm happy that we are a little more progressive than that
Is that a George Bridge reference?
No. Why?
Because we're being progressive with our left winger.
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.Boom tish
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It really does reveal the 'narrative' is irrelevant to what actually happens on the pitch. Divorced from reality.
In a game in which:
- Mapimpi avoided yellow card for a Professional Foul
- PSDT interfered in a 5 on 0 overlap in an offside position and then intercepted - from which Saf eventually score try (14 point turnaround )
- Savea was head high tackled by Etzebeth (unpunished)
- Savea was head high tackled by PSDT (unpunished)
- plus add your own minor everyday quibbles here .... that your own one eye spots. E.g. a Malherbe bind or 2, a minor Faf head high on Beauden , an Etzebeth neck roll, a Faf shepherd on Bridge to allow Kolbe nearly try, horseshit lineout penalty against whitelock, harsh rolling away penalty on Laulala milked.... etc - are on my list.
People are making videos about AB ref bias. Unbelievable! After this game ?!?!?
Pick your battles better, like a game where NZ actually did get the rub of the green.
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@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Whose up for a laugh ... ?
Wow.
I'd give that about 5 correct about 10 wrong.
Previously I had only noticed Malherbe's binding in one of the Moody elbows down scrums - until this helpful video, he was literally doing it all day ref.
Only correct ones were 2 of the knockons, couple of side entries, plus the Vermeulen penalty. Although while focusing on red herring of Moody he ignored Ardie ending up being at the wrong side of that disintegrating maul for the rip.
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@Rapido said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Previously I had only noticed Malherbe's binding in one of the Moody elbows down scrums - until this helpful video, he was literally doing it all day ref.
Good spot. Gets a "proper" bind at the engage then moves to armpit to pull Moody down.
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I for one am mightily relieved that the status quo has returned, and we once again have the refs in our pockets. These recent red cards and even penalty counts were starting to give me the jitters, i hate a level playing field
