RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B)
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Chris-B said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Billy-Webb said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Crazy-Horse said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Billy-Webb said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@cgrant said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
If the ABs lose this game, it shouldtn't be a disaster as the Boks would then face England in the semi final.
@Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
But we would have to face the number 1 side in the world in the quarter final !!!
It's a squeaky tight RWC this time around.
I don't think either the Bok or AB camp see an easier side of the draw developing.
So while each team would desperately want to win the opening pool encounter, I don't think either will be devastated by a loss.The NZ public and media will go into meltdown if the ABs lose. The Fern will implode...
Let me be so presumptuous as to speak on behalf of New Zealanders and the Fern: Nah, I think you're wrong.
There won't be dancing in the streets, but there won't be wailing and gnashing of teeth either.
Hmmm, I think there will be a bit of wailing and gnashing.
Look at what happened after the loss to Oz.
Hansen's innumerable selection errors will be highlighted.
Whoever played on the wing will be culpable. The midfield selections will be wrong - and the lack of combination developed an appalling oversight. The two pivots theory a disaster - need out best first five playing first five and our best fullback playing fullback. Playing two opensides will be ridiculous. Either Barrett or Tuipolotou should have started, but both of them are sacks of shit and we are fucked without Brodie. Crazy leaving Owen Franks at home and Joe Moody cannot catch a cold. Taylor should have started with Coles on the bench (or vice-versa). Read is too old. Crotty and SBW too injury prone. About 12 of the squad are known mental defectives and most of the others have tits for hands.
A simple explanation will be, not enough Crusaders that are any good at rugby
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Chris-B said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Billy-Webb said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Crazy-Horse said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Billy-Webb said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@cgrant said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
If the ABs lose this game, it shouldtn't be a disaster as the Boks would then face England in the semi final.
@Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
But we would have to face the number 1 side in the world in the quarter final !!!
It's a squeaky tight RWC this time around.
I don't think either the Bok or AB camp see an easier side of the draw developing.
So while each team would desperately want to win the opening pool encounter, I don't think either will be devastated by a loss.The NZ public and media will go into meltdown if the ABs lose. The Fern will implode...
Let me be so presumptuous as to speak on behalf of New Zealanders and the Fern: Nah, I think you're wrong.
There won't be dancing in the streets, but there won't be wailing and gnashing of teeth either.
Hmmm, I think there will be a bit of wailing and gnashing.
Look at what happened after the loss to Oz.
Hansen's innumerable selection errors will be highlighted.
Whoever played on the wing will be culpable. The midfield selections will be wrong - and the lack of combination developed an appalling oversight. The two pivots theory a disaster - need out best first five playing first five and our best fullback playing fullback. Playing two opensides will be ridiculous. Either Barrett or Tuipolotou should have started, but both of them are sacks of shit and we are fucked without Brodie. Crazy leaving Owen Franks at home and Joe Moody cannot catch a cold. Taylor should have started with Coles on the bench (or vice-versa). Read is too old. Crotty and SBW too injury prone. About 12 of the squad are known mental defectives and most of the others have tits for hands.
A simple explanation will be, not enough Crusaders.
I hope @Duluth has some predictive text options in the upgrade;
"We lost because there were too many Crusaders in the team!"
"We lost because there were't enough Crusaders in the team!"
"I blame [insert coach/player/team/the helpers in the kitchen here]!"Bring on the games...
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Think Bridge has to start.
My main concern is that our heavy hitters - Cane, Goodhue and SBW will be underdone.
There will be huge pressure on our front 5. Hopefully our x-factor loosies will make up for that. -
@Jailbreak7 said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
Think Bridge has to start.
My main concern is that our heavy hitters - Cane, Goodhue and SBW will be underdone.
There will be huge pressure on our front 5. Hopefully our x-factor loosies will make up for that.Maybe. They may play the team that rolled out against Tonga, and carry only one or two players who weren't there. After the SA game there are three ina row to come up to speed; the first will no doubt be the reserves, and then building into two games to peak for the quarters.
But hey, we just don't know what that's goign to look like
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@Tim said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
Start him at first 5 with BB on the bench and Smith at Full Back.
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@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Tim said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
Start him at first 5 with BB on the bench and Smith at Full Back.
Given some of his deer in the headlights performances this year I’d have him on the bench for impact if Smith is at 15. He’s done really well off the bench for the ABs in the past.
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@No-Quarter said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Tim said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
Start him at first 5 with BB on the bench and Smith at Full Back.
Given some of his deer in the headlights performances this year I’d have him on the bench for impact if Smith is at 15. He’s done really well off the bench for the ABs in the past.
I would be happy with that. I'm just against Smith starting but out of position. I still believe he is our best full back
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
I'd rather have Ben Smith on the bench and BB at 15.
Agree. A backline bench of TJP, ALB and Bender is a pretty good problem to have.
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@Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
Cyclones - South Pacific,
Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
Hurricanes Atlantic.All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
Tornados are a different thing of course.Edit: see that you have edited!
We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...
Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...
I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.
And the cool chant at matches: Cy-cl-ones, Cy-cl-ones.
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
Cyclones - South Pacific,
Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
Hurricanes Atlantic.All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
Tornados are a different thing of course.Edit: see that you have edited!
We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...
Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...
I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.
And the cool chant at matches: Cy-cl-ones, Cy-cl-ones.
The Wellington Bicycle Clones?
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
Cyclones - South Pacific,
Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
Hurricanes Atlantic.All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
Tornados are a different thing of course.Edit: see that you have edited!
We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...
Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...
I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.
And the cool chant at matches: Cy-cl-ones, Cy-cl-ones.
They could have called us the Capitals. And we've won the same number of titles as the Washington team of the same name too
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Personally I absolutely LOVE the name Cylones and we should change for the next season
@Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
Cyclones - South Pacific,
Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
Hurricanes Atlantic.All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
Tornados are a different thing of course.Edit: see that you have edited!
We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...
Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...
I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.
And the cool chant at matches: Cy-cl-ones, Cy-cl-ones.
The Wellington Bicycle Clones?
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@canefan said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
Cyclones - South Pacific,
Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
Hurricanes Atlantic.All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
Tornados are a different thing of course.Edit: see that you have edited!
We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...
Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...
I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.
And the cool chant at matches: Cy-cl-ones, Cy-cl-ones.
They could have called us the Capitals. And we've won the same number of titles as the Washington team of the same name too
From their biggest supporter Lonefan...
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@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@No-Quarter said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Tim said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
Start him at first 5 with BB on the bench and Smith at Full Back.
Given some of his deer in the headlights performances this year I’d have him on the bench for impact if Smith is at 15. He’s done really well off the bench for the ABs in the past.
I would be happy with that. I'm just against Smith starting but out of position. I still believe he is our best full back
For the game plan we seem to want to play I don’t think he is our best fullback. Still a quality player but I think the extra pace of both Beauden and Mo’unga is critical.
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@No-Quarter said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Tim said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
Start him at first 5 with BB on the bench and Smith at Full Back.
Given some of his deer in the headlights performances this year I’d have him on the bench for impact if Smith is at 15. He’s done really well off the bench for the ABs in the past.
I would be happy with that. I'm just against Smith starting but out of position. I still believe he is our best full back
For the game plan we seem to want to play I don’t think he is our best fullback. Still a quality player but I think the extra pace of both Beauden and Mo’unga is critical.
Depends if we want safe and steady in the first half and then fast paced in the 2nd half.
Given we are highly unlikely to run teams off their feet in the first half, I prefer Smith at 15 and Beauden at 10 to start the test, then putting the dual playmaker role into action to finish the game.
I also have big concerns about Mo'unga starting when the heat is really on. He hasn't done well when our pack is on the back foot thus far in his career; think he is better utilised from the bench.
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@Machpants said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
Personally I absolutely LOVE the name Cylones and we should change for the next season
@Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
Cyclones - South Pacific,
Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
Hurricanes Atlantic.All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
Tornados are a different thing of course.Edit: see that you have edited!
We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...
Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...
I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.
And the cool chant at matches: Cy-cl-ones, Cy-cl-ones.
The Wellington Bicycle Clones?
I think some people will be disappointed you didn't post this Cylon.
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Luke Jacobson out of World Cup - Shannon Frizell in
Luke Jacobson to miss Rugby World Cup 2019
All Blacks loose forward Luke Jacobson is to miss the Rugby World Cup in Japan, after suffering a delayed onset of concussion, it was announced today.
All Blacks Head Coach Steve Hansen said the 22-year-old had not presented with any signs of concussion after the Test against Tonga last week but developed symptoms after the first training session this week.
"After discussing this latest episode with Luke, as well as our medical team, the decision has been made to, sadly, withdraw him from the Tournament.
"We all felt that the best thing for him to do is to take a break from rugby until he is symptom-free and ready to return to rugby.
"While it was a tough conversation to have, ultimately it was a very simple decision. We have a duty of care to look after our players and Luke's health is the most important thing above anything else."
Hansen added: "Luke's a young man with a hugely promising career ahead of him and I'm sure he'll get the chance to play at other Rugby World Cups in the future."
Luke Jacobson said: "I'm gutted to be missing the Rugby World Cup. However, I completely understand that this decision has been made with my health and best interests at heart. Whilst I'm feeling 98 percent okay, I know I'm still not quite right and by taking a break now, I'll give myself the opportunity to continue my career in the future. I wish the team all the very best and will be with them all the way."
Hansen said the team were all feeling for Luke and were supporting him. He will stay with the group until he is symptom-free and ready to fly home.
Ta$man loose forward Shannon Frizell has been called in and will arrive in Japan on Saturday. Hansen said loose forwards Vaea Fifita and Dalton Papalii weren't considered for selection because they are currently injured.
