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  • CatograndeC Offline
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    @Billy-Webb The BBC did a resume of why England failed to regain the urn and they cited Smith, batting collapses, the weather, too much attention to one day cricket but ended up saying that at the moment Australia are just a better team.

    Hard to argue.

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    My concern going into the series was our bowlers getting out-Duked. Broad is still bowling bloody well - to left-handers - but when Anderson broke, and Smith started grinding the others into the deck, just plain discipline helped us win the vital sessions.

    I am still mindful of the loss from having bowled England out for 67... that makes me shake my head given we had easy opportunities to take it.

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    @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

    My concern going into the series was our bowlers getting out-Duked. Broad is still bowling bloody well - to left-handers - but when Anderson broke, and Smith started grinding the others into the deck, just plain discipline helped us win the vital sessions.

    I am still mindful of the loss from having bowled England out for 67... that makes me shake my head given we had easy opportunities to take it.

    Test match mentality.

    Edit: Warner "That's the way I play" aside.

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    @NTA The loss of Anderson was a big blow to England. Whether he would've troubled Smith more than the others have we will never know, but England have missed having him available. As you say, Broad has really stepped it up and Archer has been good at moments. An attack of those two, plus Anderson... but woulda shoulda.

    For my money, Paine benefited immensely from having a reliable pair like Cummins and Hazelwood at his disposal. While Lyon and Starc and Siddle could blow hot and cold, he had 2 guys to turn to who I can't recall having one poor spell.

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    @Snowy 126f3503-f8c5-4706-8bbd-2d342748aede-image.png

    I think this is right.

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    @Chris-B Nice.

    I was just going to do a black line. It does show the bad patch we had late 90s.

    I don't recall such a thing in the late 70s though. Probably just blanked it out, I was young and trauma isn't good for young folk.

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    @Billy-Webb You'd always want Anderson in English conditions although I don't think they would have been the ideal pitches for him. And at 37, he surely can't go on much longer.

    Amazingly, Hazelwood wasn't even picked for the 1st test which seems bizarre looking back. English batsmen have got better at playing Lyon and with only 2 left-handers in their top order, he is not as effective - not to mention Moeen being dropped meant 2 fewer wickets per match for Nathan.

    On Roy, all the English pundits were convinced that he should be given a go for the Ashes despite being a notable flat track bully who looks all at sea against the moving ball. I'm not sure what they will do with him - especially if he makes some runs at the Oval.

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    @Snowy Australia won in 1979 and 1980 and it wasn't contested in 1981.

    I recall some of that tour to Australia - we played Sydney first up and they had pretty much the NSW team and most of the Australian team and declared themselves favourites. Ended up a draw so it wasn't an outrageous claim.

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    @KiwiPie said in Ashes 2019:

    On Roy, all the English pundits were convinced that he should be given a go for the Ashes despite being a notable flat track bully who looks all at sea against the moving ball.

    He could make the simplest adjustment to his technique and avoid that issue tho - the fucking gate he leaves for the seaming in-ducker is criminal.

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    @Chris-B said in Ashes 2019:

    @Snowy 126f3503-f8c5-4706-8bbd-2d342748aede-image.png

    I think this is right.

    Reported for moderation.

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  • KiwiPieK Offline
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    @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

    @KiwiPie said in Ashes 2019:

    On Roy, all the English pundits were convinced that he should be given a go for the Ashes despite being a notable flat track bully who looks all at sea against the moving ball.

    He could make the simplest adjustment to his technique and avoid that issue tho - the fucking gate he leaves for the seaming in-ducker is criminal.

    He seems to have concrete in his boots. From that firm base, he jabs hard at the ball to defend it. Very strange.

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    @Billy-Webb said in Ashes 2019:

    So it transpires that Australia can in fact win tests without resorting to boorish, aggressive, head-butting-the-line on-field behaviour. Who knew?

    Well done to Tim Paine et al.

    Maybe not.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12266258

    They were on the pitch too.

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    @Snowy Good on them - looks like they had a lot of (mostly) good natured fun, enjoyed a huge moment for the first time since '01, and fired a few shots back at the English crowd who've been at them for months.

    After the English taking a slash outside off-stump on the pitch at the Oval that time, The Sun is in a glass house as usual.

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    Can anyone show me an example of a classy boozy team celebration?

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  • NTAN Offline
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    Ha! Eat 50 shades of dick newspaper clowns. You probably didn't say shit when your chav crowd booed everything Smith did, or criticise the umpires when your team stole a CWC. Now you want to take the moral high ground?

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: Boo that you fluffybunnies!

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    @Donsteppa Yeah I don't have a problem with it, they just won the ashes they are allowed to party.

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    @KiwiPie said in Ashes 2019:

    Can anyone show me an example of a classy boozy team celebration?

    Would anyone want one?

    You've won in trying circumstances. Doing dumb shit and waking up wishing you were dead is all part of the...fun...

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    @Donsteppa said in Ashes 2019:

    @Snowy Good on them - looks like they had a lot of (mostly) good natured fun, enjoyed a huge moment for the first time since '01, and fired a few shots back at the English crowd who've been at them for months.

    After the English taking a slash outside off-stump on the pitch at the Oval that time, The Sun is in a glass house as usual.

    I think the media forget how the aussie team used to act DURING the games. They won, they deserve to enjoy the spoils.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    Classic test match on Fox Sports. Fuck Daryl Hair was a blatant cheat.

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  • Billy WebbB Offline
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    @mariner4life said in Ashes 2019:

    Classic test match on Fox Sports. Fuck Daryl Hair was a blatant cheat.

    His umpiring is one of the key reasons why I am so strongly in favour of DRS.

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