RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B)
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@nzzp I reckon the mid-field and hooker are likely horses for courses type selections.
v Aus, I'd say as they tend to be a bit looser, you have Coles at 2, ALB in the mid-field, but v opposition who are a bit tighter, Taylor at 2, then Goodhue in the mid-field.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@nzzp I reckon the mid-field and hooker are likely horses for courses type selections.
v Aus, I'd say as they tend to be a bit looser, you have Coles at 2, ALB in the mid-field, but v opposition who are a bit tighter, Taylor at 2, then Goodhue in the mid-field.
Don't disagree at all.
My personal team against SA would have a SBW-Goodhue midfield, and frankly I prefer BFA at the back, Rieko at the left, and Bridge or AN Other on the right. That forces BB to 10, but I'm ok with that. Against SA you need some really physical players, and SBW could bring it.
This depends on both SBW and Goodhue being fit. If they haven't played for too long, we may well see a fitness drive Crotty/ALB midfield, with SBW and Goodhue easing back in throuhg the pools.
If you're the Saffers, what do you prepare for? Does anyone know the style NZ will play - dual playmakers, conventional 10 with pods, etc. Hopefully their coach falls into the trap of over-preparing for too many systems and confuses the hell out of the players
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@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
You have just raised another selection debate that I thought was set in stone!! I have Coles starting over Taylor!!
If the plan is fast, mobile move the ball away from the big SA guys, then you are probably right. Not that Taylor is slow but Coles (when he is fit) is more likely to suit the plan. Same with the dual play makers, I reckon.
Mid field - I have no idea what they will do. I suspect SBW and Goodhue with ALB on bench, but it really could be any combo.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
v Aus, I'd say as they tend to be a bit looser, you have Coles at 2, ALB in the mid-field, but v opposition who are a bit tighter, Taylor at 2, then Goodhue in the mid-field.
It really does depend on the plan against the different styles. Do you play to your own strengths (which I think we will and should) or counter the oppositions?
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@Snowy but does one style of play with certain personell nullify the opposition and allow you to play how you want better
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@taniwharugby Indeed, or change the plan having blunted the opposition plan by using the bench, and changing your own plan. Baldrick would be proud of so many cunning plans. Coaching dilemmas.
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huh, would you look at that. turns out i won't even watch it. I'm going camping. go team
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12 months ago or even 12 weeks ago I think everyone wouldâve thought this thread would be led with âwho plays at number 6â.
I think Taylor should start over Coles. I like Coles finishing the test and itâs less time for him to have a brain fade.
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@mariner4life said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
huh, would you look at that. turns out i won't even watch it. I'm going camping. go team
Yay! Nothing quite like someone else organising your itinerary during the WC!
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@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@mariner4life said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
huh, would you look at that. turns out i won't even watch it. I'm going camping. go team
Yay! Nothing quite like someone else organising your itinerary during the WC!
i organised it. A long weekend somewhere remote is very much required.
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@mariner4life Yeah - the police will definitely expect you to be somewhere near a TV!
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I think they will pick:
Moody
Coles
Laulala
Whitelock
Tuipolotou
Savea
Cane
Read
Smith
Mo'unga
Bridge
SBW
ALB
Smith
BarrettTu'ungafasi
Taylor
Ta'avao
Barrett
Todd
Perenara
Crotty
IoaneHookers could easily be swapped.
Centre could be any of ALB, Crotty or Goodhue, but I reckon Jack hasn't played recently enough, so he'll be the one who misses. I reckon SBW is locked in at second-five.
Wings - well who knows.
I'll be pretty amazed if we don't have the dual pivots.
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@mariner4life said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
somewhere remote is very much required.
The cat, the dog, and the wife will be hoping that I am least somewhere remote from them, when watching that. I can get a little "emotionally invested".
Not to mention Garces is the ref.
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Reiko hasn't done enough for me to start. Bridge gets the nod there, with Smith moving back to the right wing to accommodate the Barrett and Mo'unga combo.
Fairly straight forward everywhere else.
Moody
Coles
Laulala
Tuipolotu
Whitelock
Savea
Cane
Read
Smith
Mo'unga
Bridge
Crotty
Goodhue
Smith
BarrettTaylor
Tu'ungafasi
Ta'avao
Barrett
Todd
Perenara
Leinert-Brown
Barrett -
@Canes4life You reckon they will leave SBW out altogether? Or is that your picks?
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@Canes4life said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
Reiko hasn't done enough for me to start. Bridge gets the nod there, with Smith moving back to the right wing to accommodate the Barrett and Mo'unga combo.
Fairly straight forward everywhere else.
Moody
Coles
Laulala
Tuipolotu
Whitelock
Savea
Cane
Read
Smith
Mo'unga
Bridge
Crotty
Goodhue
Smith
BarrettTaylor
Tu'ungafasi
Ta'avao
Barrett
Todd
Perenara
Leinert-Brown
BarrettI hate that we accommodate!!!!! I don't like Smith on the wing. I want our best fullback at full back and our best wingers on the wing. Rissole B Barrett out if need be or put him at 1st 5
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@rotated said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
I've got a pretty strong feeling there will be no dual playmakers for this one in the starting XV. Barrett at 10 and Smith at 15.
That doesnât trump my really strong feeling that Moâunga and Barrett start.
