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    Scott Barrett review adjourned to seek further evidence? Letter from mother?

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    @pakman said in Bledisloe #1:

    Scott Barrett review adjourned to seek further evidence? Letter from mother?

    He’s a good Christian lad, so perhaps the local priest?

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe #1:

    @pakman said in Bledisloe #1:

    Scott Barrett review adjourned to seek further evidence? Letter from mother?

    He’s a good Christian lad, so perhaps the local priest?

    nouvelle donne? (new deal?)

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    @pakman said in Bledisloe #1:

    Scott Barrett review adjourned to seek further evidence? Letter from mother?

    Have to wonder what goes on in these committees. How hard is it to view the footage and make a decision?

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    @akan004 said in Bledisloe #1:

    @pakman said in Bledisloe #1:

    Scott Barrett review adjourned to seek further evidence? Letter from mother?

    Have to wonder what goes on in these committees. How hard is it to view the footage and make a decision?

    Delay suggests standard decision is undesired. Shades of SOB whitewash?

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    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Chris said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Kirwan Interesting Ofa/Angus for Franks ? I agree with Taylor for Coles as impact of the bench from Coles is greater,
    Sam Whitelock/Cane ? as Captain maybe we seem to lack direction like McCaw brought.
    Ennor brings pace to the wing and is solid on the tackle.
    And RM to the bench brings impact like Coles.
    But we need a brutal 6 so Savea back to the Bench as he has greater bench impact than Cane.Fuck knows who that 6 is Squire,Hemapo I am a bit stumped there.

    Yep, Franks is a liability and Angus and Ofa are good at scrum time and excellent around the field.

    At this point, we have no options in the flankers. I’d move Savea to eight and Read to six (as they were mostly doing anyway).

    Swapping the halfbacks around works too Smith and Coles to come and provide impact after wearing down the opposition.

    It’s never worked to run it from the first minute.

    To play Savea other than at 7 we need BBBR back.

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    @pakman said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Chris said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Kirwan Interesting Ofa/Angus for Franks ? I agree with Taylor for Coles as impact of the bench from Coles is greater,
    Sam Whitelock/Cane ? as Captain maybe we seem to lack direction like McCaw brought.
    Ennor brings pace to the wing and is solid on the tackle.
    And RM to the bench brings impact like Coles.
    But we need a brutal 6 so Savea back to the Bench as he has greater bench impact than Cane.Fuck knows who that 6 is Squire,Hemapo I am a bit stumped there.

    Yep, Franks is a liability and Angus and Ofa are good at scrum time and excellent around the field.

    At this point, we have no options in the flankers. I’d move Savea to eight and Read to six (as they were mostly doing anyway).

    Swapping the halfbacks around works too Smith and Coles to come and provide impact after wearing down the opposition.

    It’s never worked to run it from the first minute.

    To play Savea other than at 7 we need BBBR back.

    Or props that do more than scrum.

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    @barbarian said in Bledisloe #1:

    I was surprised with how little trouble the Savea/Cane/Read backrow caused us at the breakdown.

    From memory they won three turnovers, one of which was dubious. But more than that, they rarely slowed our ball at all, allowing White to have a great platform to keep the attack rolling.

    It's a chicken-and-egg discussion in some ways, because quick, front-foot ball allows our forwards to get over the gain line, which in turn makes it harder for the ABs to disrupt at the breakdown. But still I expected more from three world class players.

    Retallick is such a huge loss, and once Barrett went off you were fielding a very light pack indeed. In the end Arnold, Naisirani and Salakai-Loto all had a field day, both in their clearouts and with ball in hand.

    Can ANYONE explain why we chose to play first ten minutes of second half with only one lock?

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    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe #1:

    @pakman said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Chris said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Kirwan Interesting Ofa/Angus for Franks ? I agree with Taylor for Coles as impact of the bench from Coles is greater,
    Sam Whitelock/Cane ? as Captain maybe we seem to lack direction like McCaw brought.
    Ennor brings pace to the wing and is solid on the tackle.
    And RM to the bench brings impact like Coles.
    But we need a brutal 6 so Savea back to the Bench as he has greater bench impact than Cane.Fuck knows who that 6 is Squire,Hemapo I am a bit stumped there.

    Yep, Franks is a liability and Angus and Ofa are good at scrum time and excellent around the field.

    At this point, we have no options in the flankers. I’d move Savea to eight and Read to six (as they were mostly doing anyway).

    Swapping the halfbacks around works too Smith and Coles to come and provide impact after wearing down the opposition.

    It’s never worked to run it from the first minute.

    To play Savea other than at 7 we need BBBR back.

    Or AT LEAST ONE prop that does more than scrum.

    Fixed.

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    @pakman said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe #1:

    @pakman said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Chris said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Kirwan Interesting Ofa/Angus for Franks ? I agree with Taylor for Coles as impact of the bench from Coles is greater,
    Sam Whitelock/Cane ? as Captain maybe we seem to lack direction like McCaw brought.
    Ennor brings pace to the wing and is solid on the tackle.
    And RM to the bench brings impact like Coles.
    But we need a brutal 6 so Savea back to the Bench as he has greater bench impact than Cane.Fuck knows who that 6 is Squire,Hemapo I am a bit stumped there.

    Yep, Franks is a liability and Angus and Ofa are good at scrum time and excellent around the field.

    At this point, we have no options in the flankers. I’d move Savea to eight and Read to six (as they were mostly doing anyway).

    Swapping the halfbacks around works too Smith and Coles to come and provide impact after wearing down the opposition.

    It’s never worked to run it from the first minute.

    To play Savea other than at 7 we need BBBR back.

    Or AT LEAST ONE prop that does more than scrum.

    Fixed.

    "Or AT LEAST ONE prop that actually does more than scrum something. "

    Completely fixed.

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    @pakman said in Bledisloe #1:

    @barbarian said in Bledisloe #1:
    Can ANYONE explain why we chose to play first ten minutes of second half with only one lock?

    They made the judgement that keeping legs as fresh as possible (by giving Cane a second stint after the break thereby reducing Patty T’s workload) was better than whatever they have up at setpiece.

    If they had a lead I’m sure the calculus would have been different. Playing from behind and with an already shortened bench after Goodhue went down it was probably the right call.

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    @raznomore said in Bledisloe #1:

    this year we seem to have forgotten about ball security and respecting the bloody thing.

    Not just this year. The rot set in last RWC.

    We were actually pretty good for much of the 2nd half and look sharper and more error-free than for some time. Need to build on that.

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    Aussie media predictably getting wild over the Barrett hit. He was falling in a tackle when he was struck. Barrett wasn't even looking at him. No swinging arm. Poor technique and reckless, no filth imho

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    @canefan said in Bledisloe #1:

    Aussie media predictably getting wild over the Barrett hit. He was falling in a tackle when he was struck. Barrett wasn't even looking at him. No swinging arm. Poor technique and reckless, no filth imho

    fuck him. rub him out for 3 months.

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    I can hear some Aussie and NH scribes cry foul already! NZR owns WR!

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe #1:

    We were actually pretty good for much of the 2nd half and look sharper and more error-free than for some time. Need to build on that.

    Think I saw stats to that effect - Wallabies actually won the first half in terms of possession (obvs) as well as territory in terms of entries to the 22 or something.

    Second half the ABs were actually better, but just couldn't convert to points.

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    Barrett will have played 39 mins of rugby in 2 months before the Tongan test.

    What are the rules around training with the team during your suspension period?

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    Three weeks is about right.

    Poor Naki won’t have him against Taniwha and Mako$

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    The SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee has accepted a guilty plea from
    Scott Barrett of New Zealand for contravening Law 9.16: A player must not
    charge or knock down an opponent carrying the ball without attempting to
    grasp the player, after he was Red Carded during a Rugby Championship
    match at the weekend.
    
    Barrett has been suspended from all forms of the game for 3 weeks, up to and
    including Sunday 1 September 2019.
    
    The incident occurred in the 39th minute of the match between Australia and
    New Zealand played at Optus Stadium in Perth on 10 August 2019.
    The SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee of Adam Casselden SC 
    (Chairman), Stefan Terblanche and Eroni Clarke assessed the case.
    
    In his finding, Foul Play Review Committee Chairman Adam Casselden SC
    ruled the following:
    
    "Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all
    camera angles and additional evidence, including submissions from his legal
    representative, Stephen Cottrell, the Foul Play Review Committee upheld the
    Red Card under Law 9.16."
    
    "With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of
    foul play merited a mid-range entry point of 6 weeks due to World Rugby
    instructions that dictate any incident of foul play which results in contact with
    the head and/or neck must start at a mid-range level. However, taking into
    account mitigating factors including the Player's exemplary judicial record, his
    expressed remorse and the fact the Player has pleaded guilty at the first
    available opportunity, the Foul Play Review Committee reduced the
    suspension to 3 weeks."
    
    "The Foul Play Review Committee adjourned the hearing to seek more
    evidence regarding the Player's proposed schedule of matches. Upon
    reconvening the Foul Play Review Committee was presented with extensive
    evidence demonstrating the Player's intended playing schedule."
    
    "The player is therefore suspended for 3 weeks, up to and including Sunday
    1 September 2019.”
    
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