AB squad for the Rugby Championship
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@Chris-B they should start Cane (6) Ardie (8) Todd (7)
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@taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
@Chris-B they should start Cane (6) Ardie (8) Todd (7)
Fifita at 11?
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@taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
@Chris-B they should start Cane (6) Ardie (8) Todd (7)
A 800 kg scrum. Ardie needs to start at 7. He is not an 8 in the traditional sense but I guess that’s out the window. While we are at it with forwards playing 3 positions we could have a 7 playing 2.
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@broughie said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
A 800 kg scrum. Ardie needs to start at 7. He is not an 8 in the traditional sense but I guess that’s out the window. While we are at it with forwards playing 3 positions we could have a 7 playing 2.
our scrum was about 915kg the other night, which was about 20kg heavier than the bok one, dont think it'd be a big deal if I was being serious...but we have been told we wont see Cane/Ardie at 6/7, and I'm kinda thinking the coaches simply dont see Cane as an option at 6, despite him playing closer to that role than any of the others they have tried the past year or so.
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@mariner4life said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
In my eyes the only way this makes sense is if Read is playing 6. In which case the point of Fifita is?To give hope to Akira Ioane.
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@Kirwan said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
@Darren said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
I'd start Jacobson.
I'm sure he won't let anyone down, lets give him a chance.At seven, sure. Not big enough for six.
I don't want to turn this into a weird Ardie-height spin off thing but he's the same measurements as Messam.
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@Stargazer said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
It's fascinating to witness a TSF meltdown over a squad selection. :smiling_face_with_open_mouth:
It's been a while, probably the most criticism since 2004.
We have been spoiled with the likes of Carter, McCaw, Kaino, Nonu, etc over the years that when we have to put up with Franks, Todd, Fifita, a broken Read, and only one good winger it's bizzare.
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@KiwiMurph said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
@Kirwan said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
@Darren said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
I'd start Jacobson.
I'm sure he won't let anyone down, lets give him a chance.At seven, sure. Not big enough for six.
I don't want to turn this into a weird Ardie-height spin off thing but he's the same measurements as Messam.
And Jerry Collins.
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Ardie might be similar on paper to Jerry & Liam but he isn't in person. Ardie is a bit of freak ball in hand and his ability to make yards through defenders belies his size. But offensive tackling is still a real let down where his impact when talking truely does match his size. His clearing out has got a lot better but is still behind Cane and Todd.
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@antipodean said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
Fifita is still in the squad? I don't understand modern rugby anymore.
Fifita's special role in the squad is to guard the powder and to make sure it stays dry.
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@mariner4life said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
it's the 10 situation leading up to 2011 all over again. They tried everyone, and no one stepped up.
Pretty apt comparison. In both cases we had the Help Wanted sign out the front of the shop for a fair while for that position both cases the selectors were dealt a bit of a dud hand through injuries and age curves which was compounded by a scattergun selection process that should have been far more methodical.
Irregardless I'm not sure there is an obvious solution that was missed in either case, so I'll hardly be calling for their head over the loose trio...
now the lack of a midfield after four years... that is a different story.
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@Kirwan said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
It's been a while, probably the most criticism since 2004.
It would be fun if we trying to chose between good options - but we aren't - unless we go for some promising young blood and hope that they step up. Continuing to use failed ones isn't great though. Probably left it too late to try others now, the selections have just looked stubborn over the last 2 years.
I really hope that I am wrong. Experience has been big at world cups so you never know...
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@Snowy said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
@Kirwan said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
It's been a while, probably the most criticism since 2004.
It would be fun if we trying to chose between good options - but we aren't - unless we go for some promising young blood and hope that they step up. Continuing to use failed ones isn't great though. Probably left it too late to try others now, the selections have just looked stubborn over the last 2 years.
I really hope that I am wrong. Experience has been big at world cups so you never know...
Yep, they are stubborn to a fault. Franks and Read are good examples of that, and SBW.
People put up with that when you win everything, but a Lions drawn series, two losses to Ireland, and a smattering of really average performances have us reversing into the World Cup.
In a way it means I can enjoy it a but more, as I have no expectations we are going to win. A team chock full of AB legends only barely pulled it off the last few times.
