Hurricanes 2020
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@Jaguares4real said in Hurricanes 2020:
Highlanders are bordering on a development team with a good hooker and halfback combination
Yet still good enough to defeat the Jaguares 32 - 27
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@mariner4life said in Hurricanes 2020:
The main advantage the Crusaders have is a core group of very very good players who have been there a long time, and form the bulk of the team. That's an advantage that can not be over looked.
Of course, the fact that this group of players follows another group of very very good players who were there a long time should probably indicate they are are doing something right, and the other sides should be looking at it. And you know what, if they haven't after 20 years of sustained success, then more fool them.
Yeah, it can't hurt young guys to come in and see the standards being set by the likes of Read, Todd, Whitelock and Crotty and think 'right, this is what it means to play pro rugby.'
I think in was telling that when there was that injury break around the 30 minute mark and the crusaders went into a huddle Read was right there laying down the law. Whitelock is definitely a great leader, but there are plenty of other guys who are immense leaders and command the respect of the whole group.
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@Higgins said in Hurricanes 2020:
@Jaguares4real said in Hurricanes 2020:
Highlanders are bordering on
Yet still good enough to defeat the Jaguares 32 - 27
In 2019 they did
In 2020 the Highlanders will resemble a development team with a good hooker and halfback combination
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@Cyclops said in Hurricanes 2020:
@mariner4life said in Hurricanes 2020:
The main advantage the Crusaders have is a core group of very very good players who have been there a long time, and form the bulk of the team. That's an advantage that can not be over looked.
Of course, the fact that this group of players follows another group of very very good players who were there a long time should probably indicate they are are doing something right, and the other sides should be looking at it. And you know what, if they haven't after 20 years of sustained success, then more fool them.
Yeah, it can't hurt young guys to come in and see the standards being set by the likes of Read, Todd, Whitelock and Crotty and think 'right, this is what it means to play pro rugby.'
I think in was telling that when there was that injury break around the 30 minute mark and the crusaders went into a huddle Read was right there laying down the law. Whitelock is definitely a great leader, but there are plenty of other guys who are immense leaders and command the respect of the whole group.
i made pretty much the same point in the Blues thread i think. Great leaders in the playing group is a huge thing for player development. It also allows mid-level players to raise their performances above what they may otherwise produce.
The Crusaders are benefiting now from really good balance to their list as well. A perfect mix of veterans, mid-career pros, and excited youngsters. Not every team has that right now. The key is retention.
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@Higgins said in Hurricanes 2020:
@Jaguares4real said in Hurricanes 2020:
Highlanders are bordering on a development team with a good hooker and halfback combination
Yet still good enough to defeat the Jaguares 32 - 27
Remember, the Jaguares were probably the better team on the day
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How long is TJ signed for?
Canes should ask TJ who he wants outside him.
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@sparky said in Hurricanes 2020:
Not as big a loss as when Conrad and Ma'a left IMHO.
FOH
It's alot easier to replace a centre than a 1st five especially in a team that depend on 5-6 star players to be successful & generally lacks quality across their squad
Saying that Canes will have a much better squad in 2020 but they won't sniff beating the Crusaders or Jaguares in all likelihood
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@Jaguares4real lol the only reason the Jaguares made the final was because of the conference system, Crusaders and Hurricanes are clearly the two best teams and have been for the last four years.
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If we lose Jordie I hope we get Thomas Umaga Jensen from the Highlanders. A future centre pairing of him and his twin bro could be fairly menacing.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:
@Jaguares4real lol the only reason the Jaguares made the final was because of the conference system, Crusaders and Hurricanes are clearly the two best teams and have been for the last four years.
Speaking of that, is it the same system for next year or are there changes?
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:
@Jaguares4real lol the only reason the Jaguares made the final was because of the conference system, Crusaders and Hurricanes are clearly the two best teams and have been for the last four years.
Harsh reality is the Canes played Jaguares and Crusaders four times this season & lost all four games
In three of those games the Canes got the crap beaten out of them
This year has been one of the stronger seasons of SR in recent times
Before that the comp has crap teams like Cheetahs Kings Force allow teams to accumulate easy wins i.e. Lions
Moreover the Conference system is a pain in the arse for Jaguares
They have to play more games in SA where they've struggled since day 1Jaguares prefer playing AUS & NZ teams with their weaker packs plus they tour well They've won their last 6 games in AUS and 3 out of 4 in NZ
That's why i'm looking forward to 2021 when the format will suit themI believe the Higlanders have a terrible recent record in SA to give an example The only NZ sides who tour well which in NZ are Crusaders & Canes
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@Jaguares4real read into that what you like but we didn't have Beaudy etc when the Jaguares came to town. If the Canes and Jaguares would have met in a Semi, the Canes would have been heavy favourites.