SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares
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I'm heartbroken that a random dude would have supported the Jaguares if not for the horrible crime of me Supporting the Jaguares vociferously
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@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
I'm heartbroken that a random dude would have supported the Jaguares if not for the horrible crime of me Supporting the Jaguares vociferously
Supporting?
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@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@booboo said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@taniwharugby said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
maybe lacked a bit of big game experience at crucial
Crusaders deserved to win
Jaguares were the better team
Crusaders were functional and did enough to win & were clinical when they got a chance
Somewhat self contradictory post.
Perhaps understandable in the circumstances
Two things can be right at the same time Doesn't have to a binary choice
True. But not when one of them is wrong.
Hairies may had some better stats with ball in hand, but how good were Saders on D?
Some serious Kyle Gass-Jack Black action going on there.
Out-scrummed, out box-kicked, out-defended, out-tactic-ed, out scored their opposition.
Better team won comfortably.
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Not to mention the whole sliding doors if they get one of their scores they left out there...
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Just further on one (well two) of my points above, how impressive was the leadership to change up the tactics when Plan A wasn't working?
Not easy to abandon the game plan and switch mentality.
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@MajorRage said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
I would have supported the Jaguares today if not for you. I doubt I’m alone.
I would’ve supported the Jags if they were playing an Aussie team or South African side or the Chiefs
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@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@booboo said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@taniwharugby said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
maybe lacked a bit of big game experience at crucial
Crusaders deserved to win
Jaguares were the better team
Crusaders were functional and did enough to win & were clinical when they got a chance
Somewhat self contradictory post.
Perhaps understandable in the circumstances
Two things can be right at the same time Doesn't have to a binary choice
Crusaders deserved to win but Jaguares were the better team
Rarely happens but then I'm not a box score scout who just looks at the final whistle score
This is great stuff. Means the Canes were the better team last weekend. Will there be a parade down Lambton Quay ? Hope so.
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@MN5 said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@booboo said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@taniwharugby said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
maybe lacked a bit of big game experience at crucial
Crusaders deserved to win
Jaguares were the better team
Crusaders were functional and did enough to win & were clinical when they got a chance
Somewhat self contradictory post.
Perhaps understandable in the circumstances
Two things can be right at the same time Doesn't have to a binary choice
Crusaders deserved to win but Jaguares were the better team
Rarely happens but then I'm not a box score scout who just looks at the final whistle score
This is great stuff. Means the Canes were the better team last weekend. Will there be a parade down Lambton Quay ? Hope so.
But but but the Jags were simultaneously the best and second best team in the comp! The artificially modified competition ladder says so. Competition points and actual scoreboard points mean nothing!
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@pukunui said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@MN5 said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@booboo said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@taniwharugby said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
maybe lacked a bit of big game experience at crucial
Crusaders deserved to win
Jaguares were the better team
Crusaders were functional and did enough to win & were clinical when they got a chance
Somewhat self contradictory post.
Perhaps understandable in the circumstances
Two things can be right at the same time Doesn't have to a binary choice
Crusaders deserved to win but Jaguares were the better team
Rarely happens but then I'm not a box score scout who just looks at the final whistle score
This is great stuff. Means the Canes were the better team last weekend. Will there be a parade down Lambton Quay ? Hope so.
But but but the Jags were simultaneously the best and second best team in the comp! The artificially modified competition ladder says so. Competition points and actual scoreboard points mean nothing!
I know.....and don’t get me started on all the meaningless friendlies that International rugby teams play. What a waste of time
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@MN5 said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
arted on all the meaningless friendlies that International rugby teams play. What a waste of tim
I'm trying to educate a mostly Kiwi crowd here about the ARG mentality
There been at times an indifference to most Int'l games especially Summer test matches & EOYT to Europe
ARG is unique in having a diabolical travelling schedule and a shallow playing
Add Bad coaching and Management at UAR level & you have a cocktail for disaster
This has only been reversed in last 18 months with Ledesma & Quesada
RWC and Improvements in TRC are the criteria in which ARG measure itself
Test matches they may be called but that's a fancy word for friendlies
This country beating that country in 2017 means fuck all in 2019Rugby runs on 4 year cycles I couldn't give a fuck about most Pumas games from 2016-19
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@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@MN5 said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
arted on all the meaningless friendlies that International rugby teams play. What a waste of tim
I'm trying to educate a mostly Kiwi crowd here about the ARG mentality
There been at times an indifference to most Int'l games especially Summer test matches & EOYT to Europe
ARG is unique in having a diabolical travelling schedule and a shallow playing
Add Bad coaching and Management at UAR level & you have a cocktail for disaster
This has only been reversed in last 18 months with Ledesma & Quesada
RWC and Improvements in TRC are the criteria in which ARG measure itself
Test matches they may be called but that's a fancy word for friendlies
This country beating that country in 2017 means fuck all in 2019Rugby runs on 4 year cycles I couldn't give a fuck about most Pumas games from 2016-19
If that is reflective of the Argentine attitude then that may be why they're not improving.
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@Hooroo said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
I hope the Jags play better in two weeks or the Weakened ABs will destroy them.
Reminder that Jaguares a club side playing Super Rugby
Don;t be a moron and assume they'll be the same under Los Pumas with a near dozen new players Different coaching staff and playing style
They won't
But I understand it;s easy to fall for the Phil Kearns line Easy to parrot talking points blindly
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@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
Test matches they may be called but that's a fancy word for friendlies
Conversely friendlies is a stupid word for test matches.
There is nothing friendly about them as most players would attest.
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It reflective to a degree but it should be based in context
You've got to cut your cloth accordingly
The big thing in ARG is increase their playing pool
There was a Jaguares XV playing CC rugby in SA and played & won their 1st game yesterday
Thar side was comprised of fringe Jaguares and a bunch of U20 players
Another thing going ARG way is the continuing decimation of SA NZ & AUS SR teams as their players to Europe & Japan
This will make ARG even stronger as their competitors in SANZAAR get hollowed out
NZ is insulted by its player pool but their SR sides will be weaker nonetheless with 1 or 2 exceptions
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And once again, finals experience is a major difference.
Committed defence, a gun kicking game and actually all things considered a pretty comfortable win with it all wrapped up with 10 minutes to go.
No where near as competitive or captivating as the canes semi final.
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@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Hooroo said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
I hope the Jags play better in two weeks or the Weakened ABs will destroy them.
Reminder that Jaguares a club side playing Super Rugby
Don;t be a moron and assume they'll be the same under Los Pumas with a near dozen new players Different coaching staff and playing style
They won't
But I understand it;s easy to fall for the Phil Kearns line Easy to parrot talking points blindly
You’re only missing the national anthem before kick off during super rugby to Tie it all together nicely.
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@ACT-Crusader said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@MajorRage said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
I would have supported the Jaguares today if not for you. I doubt I’m alone.
I would’ve supported the Jags if they were playing an Aussie team or South African side or the Chiefs
In that case... can we have our coach back then? I’d like to see a breakdance at Tauranga Domain...
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@Siam said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
And once again, finals experience is a major difference.
Committed defence, a gun kicking game and actually all things considered a pretty comfortable win with it all wrapped up with 10 minutes to go.
No where near as competitive or captivating as the canes semi final.
Once again home advantage is also a major difference. I think every play-off game this year was won by the home team?
Past few years there has been a slight bucking of the trend that it's beyond difficult to win a play-off game outside your country, with the slanted competition structure meaning some significantly stronger NZ teams have had to travel to Oz/SA and have won.
Jags would have been tough to beat in BA, but they largely lost this final in the first month or so of the competition.
