SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares
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@Machpants said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@MajorRage said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
Fair play to the Jaguares ... tough travel across for the game, and I suspect there may not have been another team in the comp that would have beaten them tonight. If they hold on to most players for next year, they will be very tough to beat. Certainly a long way from where they started.
But you can't score 3 points in a final an expect to win anything. One bombed try, and two close chances don't count for much, when I think the Saders let themselves down a couple of times too. If everybody had taken 80% of their chances, the score would have been something like 30-18.
But they didn't, and hence scoreboard pressure meant the Saders never really had to take risks, whilst the Jaguares did. And that ... is final's rugby.
They'll be better for it next year.
Jaguares will be around for a while They benefit from clear pathways with a team playing CC rugby in SA & U20 players emerging at a steady rate
Matera will be badly missed Matera is the best #6 in World Rugby and it;s not really close
Lavinnini is replaceable Very good player but his hands are fecking awful
Moreover with a round robin format from 2021 onwards this will suit Jaguares well They tour well + win games in AUS & NZ
SA teams can't win in NZ & AUS AUS teams will remain rubbish
Even the NZ teams will be weakened
Blues will remain a
show Highlanders will revert back to being bottom feedersCanes will be screwed when Barrett Brothers likely leave
Yeah whatever, keep up your morale however you fancy.
Simple fact NZ teams win most SR titles, it's not going to changeYou should be proud of what the Jags achieved, not bragging about things that they have not
You've misunderstood my point
Crusaders set the standard in Super Rugby They'll remain the preeminent force & the team to beat in SR
Chiefs will be dangerous with Gatland back & have the game to beat Jaguares
Hurricanes will have a better squad in 2020 but without Barrett bros they're fucked
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@Jaguares4real Maybe. My point is, NZ teams actually play rugby and do well, even when t looks like they are fooked. I tell you what, next season, a depleted NZ SR team will do well. Cos we have depth and that's what we do. Saying crap like 'canes without barretts are rubbish' is dumb shiite, we'll still do well - canes will still be up there next year, baretts or no. Team, not individuals.
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I'm proud of the Jaguares season but I'm not one to settle for "well done pat yourself on the back"
That kind of mentality disgusts me
Los Pumas will use the Jaguares success as a springboard for the RWC campaign
TRC friendlies will serve as trials for those aspiring to make RWC squad
Future is bright in ARG rugby
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@Machpants said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Jaguares4real Maybe. My point is, NZ teams actually play rugby and do well, even when t looks like they are fooked. I tell you what, next season, a depleted NZ SR team will do well. Cos we have depth and that's what we do. Saying crap like 'canes without barretts are rubbish' is dumb shiite, we'll still do well - canes will still be up there next year, baretts or no. Team, not individuals.
Disagree
Hurricanes rely on their star players to deliver: Barrett brothers Laumape Savea Coles & TJP
Without a few of them they'll be a much diminished team
Good enough to make playoffs but not a contender to win it all IMO
Crusaders have strength in numbers & strength in depth
That's the greatness of the Crusaders summarised in one sentecne
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@Steven-Harris said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
Why replace Hall..?hes been outstanding..!
Substitution by rote
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@akan004 said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
Strange decision to go for three .
Nup. Test match intensity. Gift 3. Good call.
The kick from 45m on the angle I thought was ambitious and they should have plugged the corner. But test match intensity ...
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@taniwharugby said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
second one of those off-loads of Materas that looks to have gone forward out of hand
The one for the bombed try by Moroni looked ... err .. . borderline
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@No-Quarter said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
Should have been a penalty for holding on. Marshall is talking shit.
No!? Really?
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@Yeetyaah said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
What a boring game and comp. Saders win again. Maybe time to spread the talent.
Bolded text: I really enjoyed it.
Not bolded bit: there's plenty of talent elsewhere. Just got to develop themselves better.
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@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@taniwharugby said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
maybe lacked a bit of big game experience at crucial
Crusaders deserved to win
Jaguares were the better team
Crusaders were functional and did enough to win & were clinical when they got a chance
Somewhat self contradictory post.
Perhaps understandable in the circumstances
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@Donsteppa said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
“The better team” never loses a game 19 - 3.
My immediate reaction was very similar.
My thoughts were "19-3 says they weren't".
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@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Donsteppa said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
“The better team” never loses a game 19 - 3.
they do when they leave at least 15 points on the table and gift a try through a winger having a brain fart
That makes them a poor team.
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@booboo said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@taniwharugby said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
maybe lacked a bit of big game experience at crucial
Crusaders deserved to win
Jaguares were the better team
Crusaders were functional and did enough to win & were clinical when they got a chance
Somewhat self contradictory post.
Perhaps understandable in the circumstances
Two things can be right at the same time Doesn't have to a binary choice
Crusaders deserved to win but Jaguares were the better team
Rarely happens but then I'm not a box score scout who just looks at the final whistle score
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@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@booboo said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@taniwharugby said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
maybe lacked a bit of big game experience at crucial
Crusaders deserved to win
Jaguares were the better team
Crusaders were functional and did enough to win & were clinical when they got a chance
Somewhat self contradictory post.
Perhaps understandable in the circumstances
Two things can be right at the same time Doesn't have to a binary choice
Crusaders deserved to win but Jaguares were the better team
Rarely happens but then I'm not a box score scout who just looks at the final whistle score
Give it a rest, seriously.
Crusaders name on the trophy, 19-3, they were the better team, no question. Your little moral we were the better team crap counts for zilch. Nothing. Nada.
And it’s bollocks. 19-3 is one sided.
You won’t give a shit but I would have supported the Jaguares today if not for you. I doubt I’m alone.
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I'm heartbroken that a random dude would have supported the Jaguares if not for the horrible crime of me Supporting the Jaguares vociferously
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@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
I'm heartbroken that a random dude would have supported the Jaguares if not for the horrible crime of me Supporting the Jaguares vociferously
Supporting?
