CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England
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The last three and a half efforts have been pretty dire, and we are only in with three narrow wins and NRR...
But despite taking the long way around they are exactly where most thought they would be: clearly fourth in a four team field, and will need to pull one out of the bag to win a semi-final. But if you gave me Aussie in a semi-final with Kane,Taylor and Boult healthy then I'd take it.
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@Donsteppa said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
The Black Caps are starting to look like the Warriors; dumb, woefully predictable, and they've even given up on any redeeming razzle dazzle along the way.
Yet somehow there's (all but) a semi final berth...!
I’d be pissed off at this comparison if it wasn’t so true
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I went to bed after 4 overs.
I was listening to Dion Nash yesterday before the game and found myself agreeing. He said that there was no point changing a winning team despite some of the performances. In hindsight I agree even more.
I would have said to Munro, "No matter what you score you are playing in the final so if you get out, it doesn't matter, you're in the starting line up, so stop worrying about your position and go and hit the damn ball"
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@Hooroo said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
I would have said to Munro, "No matter what you score you are playing in the final so if you get out, it doesn't matter, you're in the starting line up, so stop worrying about your position and go and hit the damn ball"
The selections have been horrific and really exposed us. You cna't pick Munro all tournament, and then abandon him for the last three games. Crazy stuff. He was/is a chance of getting us into a winning position against a top side; it's unlikely, but playing conservative means our win is even more unlikely.
STick with a settled side, don't throw people in who are undercooked against top sides. That said, win two games and all is forgiven!
how sure are we of a spot?
The result all but knocked Pakistan out of contention for the semi-finals. For them to make the final four, they need to bat first against Bangladesh, score at least 308 and then dismiss Mashrafe Mortaza's side for 0. And if Pakistan pile up 350, they need to beat Bangladesh by 312 runs in order to qualify at the expense of New Zealand. However, Pakistan will be knocked out immediately if Bangladesh bat first on Friday.
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Munro is a red herring. He's the proverbial stopped clock at this level, the big mistake was not giving Nicholls game time earlier with some minor squad rotation v the 'easier' teams.
We have another mercurial Colin in the team for a gamble on a match winning rapid-fire 50 vs a hapless dismissal.
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@Bones said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@nzzp how many games was Munro selected for?
All the games we won and one we lost.
Dion Nash also said as a opening bowler if you had to choose who to bowl to it would be Nichols every day of the week over Munro
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On the bright side...Latham scored runs?
And, uh, the streaker offered some distraction.I actually feel sorry for Pakistan. Our batting has been an absolute embarrassment three games in a row. To be honest, I don't think Guptill has gotten nearly enough shit. He is a senior batsman with plenty of experience and has been farking woeful. I give a partial pass to Nicholls, as he has been managed very poorly. No games and then back to back against Australia and England is ridiculous.
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Not enough batting around Timmy
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@Mokey said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
I actually feel sorry for Pakistan. Our batting has been an absolute embarrassment three games in a row. To be honest, I don't think Guptill has gotten nearly enough shit. He is a senior batsman with plenty of experience and has been farking woeful. I give a partial pass to Nicholls, as he has been managed very poorly. No games and then back to back against Australia and England is ridiculous.
Agree 100%
Pakistan can feel rightfully aggrieved, as they beat both us and England in 50 over contests and we had our rained-off match against what will probably be the top team at the end of pool play.
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I’m glad we made it to the semis. Chance to turn around our form. It doesn’t really matter in a tournament setting how you get to the knock out games.
Pakistan, SL etc too bad so sad.
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Assuming Pakistan don't bowl the Bangles out for 0, it's unusual to get to this stage of the tournament with seemingly as many selection questions as answers.
Even for the bowling. Ferguson is a given to come back in for Southee...... yet is Southee actually a worse option than Santner's Pies? Do we need to pick a spinner for the sake of it given Williamson's ability to role the arm over, etc...
As infuriating as Colin the Opener is, maybe it's just death or glory time, yet it's also Starc for him to try and hit out of the ground... and why is Guppy seeing it like a golf ball?
I need more coffee.
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@Donsteppa said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
Assuming Pakistan don't bowl the Bangles out for 0, it's unusual to get to this stage of the tournament with seemingly as many selection questions as answers.
Even for the bowling. Ferguson is a given to come back in for Southee...... yet is Southee actually a worse option than Santner's Pies? Do we need to pick a spinner for the sake of it given Williamson's ability to role the arm over, etc...
As infuriating as Colin the Opener is, maybe it's just death or glory time, yet it's also Starc for him to try and hit out of the ground... and why is Guppy seeing it like a golf ball?
I need more coffee.
The weird thing is, I still feel as though we are a chance! There is nothing to back that feeling up but I still feel we are a chance against Aussie!
Sometimes it's helpful to be a bit dim
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Is that it? Are they done now? Can they come home? Because quite frankly they are embarrassing us.
Another pathetic effort. This team may have more talent than our bits and pieces sides of the past, but it lacks their fight.
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@Hooroo said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@Donsteppa said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
Assuming Pakistan don't bowl the Bangles out for 0, it's unusual to get to this stage of the tournament with seemingly as many selection questions as answers.
Even for the bowling. Ferguson is a given to come back in for Southee...... yet is Southee actually a worse option than Santner's Pies? Do we need to pick a spinner for the sake of it given Williamson's ability to role the arm over, etc...
As infuriating as Colin the Opener is, maybe it's just death or glory time, yet it's also Starc for him to try and hit out of the ground... and why is Guppy seeing it like a golf ball?
I need more coffee.
The weird thing is, I still feel as though we are a chance! There is nothing to back that feeling up but I still feel we are a chance against Aussie!
Yep, always a chance! Two games to somehow jam our way into being Champions of The World.
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@ACT-Crusader said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
I’m glad we made it to the semis. Chance to turn around our form. It doesn’t really matter in a tournament setting how you get to the knock out games.
Pakistan, SL etc too bad so sad.
Agreed but after the last 3 games it feels more like supporting the black knight from Monty Python than the plucky underdog.
