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  • ChrisC Away
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    @nzzp Yeah you could also say unlucky sometimes as well
    The Forward pass that wasn't in SA to deny Reece the Try was BS denied the Crusaders a Win.and the late shot by Coles in the SF are 2 that spring to mind.There a probably more.So maybe swings and Roundabouts.

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    @Cyclops said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:

    Honestly I don't even think that tweet was that whingy.
    Now compare that to Jamie Wall's dummy spit in on the RNZ live scoring...

    Jun 29, 2019  /  Sport

    Crusaders see off Hurricanes

    Crusaders see off Hurricanes

    The Crusaders have staved off a mighty Hurricanes challenge to win their Super Rugby semi-final 30-26 in Christchurch and set up a home decider against the Argentinian side the Jaguares.

    What a twat Wall is

    That gives me joy to see such petulance from a Rugby Journo 🤡 🤡

    Lets ignore Marshall neglecting rugby basics for Mo'unga try or Ben Lam running 10m in field to leave Sevu Reece with half a pitch to himself to score a try

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    @Cyclops it's not all bad

    Well a disappointing result, would've been cool to have the Canes in the final. Instead we're back here at this pile of scaffolding next weekend, when the Crusaders play the Jags.
    See you then!

    And so the final will be next weekend in Christchurch, and let's hope more people show up to watch it.

    that's a couple of tidy shots.

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    @mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:

    @Cyclops it's not all bad

    Well a disappointing result, would've been cool to have the Canes in the final. Instead we're back here at this pile of scaffolding next weekend, when the Crusaders play the Jags.
    See you then!

    And so the final will be next weekend in Christchurch, and let's hope more people show up to watch it.

    that's a couple of tidy shots.

    He's right in that the stadium looks like a absolute dump 💩 💩

    I can see why fans wouldn't want to stand in scaffolding erected areas in middle of winter I'll give him that

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    haha some real hurt still going on...

    a bit in the article form Twitter, suggesting the TMO should have intervened...IMO, why not go the next step, have no on-field ref and let the TMO make all the rulings...muppet!

    Headline suggests that if Whitelock had not played at the ball, the canes woulda won!

    Agree with MAllet though, was a calculated risk by Whitelock, and he got the jackpot.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/113927302/streetsmart-sam-whitelock-used-clever-ploy-to-get-crusaders-into-super-rugby-final

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    @taniwharugby if that happens in a RWC knock out game and gets played on the big screen, the ref will undoubtedly go to the TMO. Whitelock would then be YC'd for professional foul and we'd be right under the pump, so I hope he doesn't bring that sort of "street-smart" to the RWC.

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    Was that a real Canes tweet? How bloody stupid! I bet you the players and coaching staff wouldn’t have been happy about that.

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    @No-Quarter The same would have happened if they'd reviewed Coles' late hit on Mo'unga though.

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    @Stargazer there was another off the ball late hit by Coles earlier as well.

    I guess if the TMO isnt allowed to intervene in the SW incident, then the risk/reward is worth it, cheap shots off the ball however are not, as they are foul play and can be pulled up by the TMO.

    But then we know how the TMO likes to intervene and get his voice on TV.

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    @Stargazer said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:

    @No-Quarter The same would have happened if they'd reviewed Coles' late hit on Mo'unga though.

    Not sure where in my post I was excusing Coles' late hit? Yes that would have gone to the TMO, I'd (obviously) hope he doesn't bring the cheap shots to a RWC knock-out game as well!

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    @No-Quarter I didn't say you were excusing Coles' late hit.

    And yes, Coles looked like the Coles of his early career with all his ill-discipline. Definitely don't want to see that in RWC games (knock-out or not). The French refs might be tempted to pull a red card instead of a yellow.

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    @taniwharugby said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:

    haha some real hurt still going on...

    a bit in the article form Twitter, suggesting the TMO should have intervened...IMO, why not go the next step, have no on-field ref and let the TMO make all the rulings...muppet!

    Headline suggests that if Whitelock had not played at the ball, the canes woulda won!

    Agree with MAllet though, was a calculated risk by Whitelock, and he got the jackpot.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/113927302/streetsmart-sam-whitelock-used-clever-ploy-to-get-crusaders-into-super-rugby-final

    Absolutely insane that rugby has got itself into such a tangled state that this is even illegal.

    Player onside, on his feet, grabs at ball at the same time as an opposition player wearing the invisible halfback cloak of untouchability.

    The answer to this should not be an artificial penalty. The answer should be that the attacking team needed to commit more forwards to give their halfback clean ball.

    A tone of CO2 will be released over the next 20 years as data centres store pointless gifs of an ungiven fake construct penalty. Offset by tears flowing into the water cycle and nourishing some green growth, somewhere......

    Meanwhile in other news: Man walks into street sign after being distracted by pretty lady. Law changes likely.

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    @Rapido is it not a deliberate knock on? He just slapped it forward to stop TJP from clearing the ball.

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    @No-Quarter said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:

    @Rapido is it not a deliberate knock on? He just slapped it forward to stop TJP from clearing the ball.

    You are both right. Could have been given as a penalty. But our forwards should have cleared him out

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    @canefan Another Explanation I have heard is That is was not a Ruck,As TJ had his hands on the ball so Whitelock as he was not offside could play the ball.He knocked it backwards then TJ knocked the ball into a canes forward who was offside.
    The Rule can be interpreted in a lot of ways by the look.
    TJ Johnson did a piece on Prime TV explaining this I have seen it but can't upload it comes up as Video unavailable.
    I am sure someone on the Fern has seen the video.
    I am not saying its 100% accurate just another point of view..

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    @No-Quarter said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:

    @Rapido is it not a deliberate knock on? He just slapped it forward to stop TJP from clearing the ball.

    i've never seen anyone called for a deliberate knock on EVER when a ball has been hit out of another players hands.

    pretty rich from TJ considering trying to hit the ball out of the oppo 9's hands as they attempt to clear the scrum would occur at pretty much every scrum.

    whitelock on feet, on side. no problem. you have the ball in your hand, your job to protect it. Ask Jeff Wilson about it..

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    @Chris said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:

    @canefan Another Explanation I have heard is That is was not a Ruck,As TJ had his hands on the ball so Whitelock as he was not offside could play the ball.He knocked it backwards then TJ knocked the ball into a canes forward who was offside.
    The Rule can be interpreted in a lot of ways by the look.
    TJ Johnson did a piece on Prime TV explaining this I have seen it but can't upload it comes up as Video unavailable.
    I am sure someone on the Fern has seen the video.
    I am not saying its 100% accurate just another point of view..

    Regardless of the interpretation we should have cleared his butt out of there. Don't leave your fate in the hands of the ref. I used to complain about poor cleaning out from the ABs years ago when the saffas were strong. Can't leave guys like Burger, and this case Whitelock, in arms reach of the ball. Besides, if we'd cleaned up Mo'unga's speculator that ended up a try we wouldn't even be having this discussion

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    @canefan ultimately yes no one would be talking. or in some cases out there whinging about it

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