CWC Game #6 Black Caps v West Indies
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@MajorRage
Usually I don't mind the poms in cricket but now I'm hoping they are knocked out. Seriously arrogant fanbase - winning tight is "proof" we are just lucky but let's ignore them losing to Sri Lanka+ Pakistan and still not being guaranteed a semi.Nice to see another Tauranga boy with the winning play.
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@canefan said in CWC Game #6 Black Caps v West Indies:
I am sure the coaches won't learn, but after the match we should
- Give the next 2 starts to Nicholls, Munro is a failure
- If we play Henry he needs to be bowled through. The guy is not a death bowler
Logic dictates Henry is due a few wickets but agree. We have other superior death options. No, Southee is not one of these anymore.
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@MajorRage said in CWC Game #6 Black Caps v West Indies:
Seem a bit annoyed about MOTM ... let’s mske it easy. Kane’s innings difference between winning and losing badly. Braithwait between almost winning and losing badly.
Despite his great knock Kane handed in a team sheet with Munro and Milne on it.
Give it to Brathwaite.
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@MN5 said in CWC Game #6 Black Caps v West Indies:
@canefan said in CWC Game #6 Black Caps v West Indies:
I am sure the coaches won't learn, but after the match we should
- Give the next 2 starts to Nicholls, Munro is a failure
- If we play Henry he needs to be bowled through. The guy is not a death bowler
Logic dictates Henry is due a few wickets but agree. We have other superior death options. No, Southee is not one of these anymore.
He can still take wickets at the start. Neesh did a good job, I reckon CDG could do a job too. Henry? No
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@NTA said in CWC Game #6 Black Caps v West Indies:
That Ferguson chap is really ruining your "stoic, proud, yet humble Kiwi" vibe with some of his wicket celebrations.
And that dirty mo.
Hypocrites proudly stand over here behind me!
I'm making inquiries for wee locky to be my godson - love that lad 😁
(warner mumble mumble, self awareness mumble mumble does he have to mumble...)
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Just got home from the game after not being online. Interesting to read the thread start to finish and just so many premature calls made ....
Looks like NZ are half an excellent side and half a poor one. It's basically Tauranga keeping things together. What a maestro Kane is as usual walking to the wicket after just one ball.
Great atmosphere at the game. English fans supporting the Windies and NZ fans mostly in their early 20s and mostly pissed.
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@rotated said in CWC Game #6 Black Caps v West Indies:
@MajorRage said in CWC Game #6 Black Caps v West Indies:
Seem a bit annoyed about MOTM ... let’s mske it easy. Kane’s innings difference between winning and losing badly. Braithwait between almost winning and losing badly.
Despite his great knock Kane handed in a team sheet with Munro and Milne on it.
Give it to Brathwaite.
Que?
Re MOTM Brathwaite made it entertaining but he fucked up at the end.
6 needed of 7 balls. Take the single. 5 off the over ... or take on the best outfield catcher in the opposition...
Loses MOTM for losing the unlosable
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Just watched the little highlights package, and that over from Henry was truly shit bowling. It wasn't just that Brathwaite was totally in the zone. He was being served up dire, DIRE deliveries. Wide full tosses. He is not a death bowler. Bowl him out.
Also, we need to fix our opening partnership woes. Yes, Kane is one of the best ever, but he shouldn't have to do everything runs-wise every bloody game because those around him do stupid shit.
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Henrys pie chucking doesnt prove my point. It just illustrates it. Southee has bowled overs like that before, Boult has as well. A bad performance doesnt mean you are bad.
However......if you are batting 9/10/11 and being picked as a bowler.. your captain needs to be able to throw you the ball at ANY stage of an innings and know you have a good chance of advancing the teams cause. Not 100%, but maybe 40% of really improving it, 55% chance of just maintaining the status quo and 5% of hurting your team.
Henry fails at that miserably, after the first 15 overs he has a much higher chance of hurting your team than helping them.
If you were captain of the Black Caps and it was a close game... how confident do you feel calling up Henry to bowl after the 15 over mark? He has no variations and is mentally fragile. He is a fair weather bowler and when the going gets tough, he seems to lose it more often than not.I know some facile supporters just screech STATS!!!.. but that analysis is cringey.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in CWC Game #6 Black Caps v West Indies:
Henrys pie chucking doesnt prove my point. It just illustrates it. Southee has bowled overs like that before, Boult has as well. A bad performance doesnt mean you are bad.
However......if you are batting 9/10/11 and being picked as a bowler.. your captain needs to be able to throw you the ball at ANY stage of an innings and know you have a good chance of advancing the teams cause. Not 100%, but maybe 40% of really improving it, 55% chance of just maintaining the status quo and 5% of hurting your team.
Henry fails at that miserably, after the first 15 overs he has a much higher chance of hurting your team than helping them.
If you were captain of the Black Caps and it was a close game... how confident do you feel calling up Henry to bowl after the 15 over mark? He has no variations and is mentally fragile. He is a fair weather bowler and when the going gets tough, he seems to lose it more often than not.I know some facile supporters just screech STATS!!!.. but that analysis is cringey.
Despite our differences on the subject I don’t actually disagree with any of this as such it’s just I think we need to realise we’re a team with weaknesses like any other and an ageing out of form Southee isn’t the answer to back up Boult. His stats ( sorry but I have to mention it ) have been awful since the 2015 WC.
Henry’s death bowling was terrible. I’m certainly not gonna deny that in the slightest.
