2020 All Blacks Squad
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@Canes4life Has Jordie already re-signed with the Canes?
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@Chris nevermind I thought he had, sheesh I hope they both sign then or the Canes are stuffed. Guys like Tiatia and Toala just seem a bit average when you look at the Crusaders roster.
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@Canes4life Geez, Toala is only just 20 years old, has played 4 Mitre 10 Cup games, hasn't played a single SR game yet, and you already call him average? He's a huge prospect! The question is, will he get the opportunities to grow and develop as a SR player, or will he waste his time at the Canes and only watch on from the stands every week? Like a few other players ...
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@sparky said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
Richie Mo'unga currently looks like the first-choice First-Five for 2019:
Still unclear what is going to happen to the following All Blacks whose deals run out in 2019.
Brodie Retallick:
Jack Goodhue:
Beauden Barrett:
Jordie Barrett:
Sonny Bill Williams:
Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi:
Kane Hames:
Shannon Frizell:
Waisake Naholo:
Matt Todd:
Luke Romano:
Sam Whitelock (Could take up one-year extension)You mean the broken guy who pretty much played like shit when he actually did take the field ?
As always I'm sure they'll pull out all the stops and cater for all his needs.
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So Jordie only took up a 1 year contract because he wants game time at 12? But Laumape is in such good form it seems unlikely he'll get much more this year or any next year if he signs on again. But he also says he won't play for another SR team. What's his options then? Stick with the Canes and play out of his favoured position? Or head overseas at such a young age?
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@Stargazer yeah I'd say he's better off switching teams but I'm pretty sure he's quite adamant at not switching.
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@Stargazer probably more underwhelming is the phrase I should of used. I actually like the look of the kid after seeing him in that pre season game but will he become just another P Umaga Jensen or J Lowe and get next to no game time because of guys like Tiatia - who in my opinion just seems to be a bit average for Super Rugby.
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@Yeetyaah he's adamant on being a Cane so I will be very suprised if he moved. I've mentioned this many times but will say it again, if the Canes want to win games then keep picking Laumape at 12, if they want to win championships they need to pick J Barrett at 12 IMO.
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@Canes4life I'd also be surprised if he went to another NZ team. But isn't he unproven in SR at 12 compared to Laumape?
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@Yeetyaah that one game where he started at 12 this year he looked rock solid and alot more natural in being that extra playmaker. His love of physicality suits him being in that position aswell. He's obviously unproven because he hasn't been given much of a chance there to show his prowess.
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@Canes4life I remember seeing him be named to start but didn't catch the performance. Awkward situation for him (and NZR if they wan't to resign him) I suppose.
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@Canes4life Yep, the Canes coaching staff are indeed underwhelming in their ability to convert young, talented players they've signed on full contracts into successful SR players. That doesn't make those players underwhelming though.
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@Stargazer from a fan perspective it does, when the Crusaders have Jordan, Ennor, Bridge etc and we have guys like Tiatia and a few unproven early 20 year olds it doesn't really give you much hope.
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@Yeetyaah the best thing for the Canes to do is start JB at 12 and use Laumape in the last 30 mins as a wrecking ball against tiring opposition. Then JB can drop back to 15 and use his boot to close out matches like he did against the Tahs in round 1.
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@Canes4life I disagree. As a fan, I see the potential of players that the Canes have signed. It's the coaches I'm disappointed in, because they don't give certain players game time. The Crusaders, Highlanders and (even the) Chiefs coaches do that better.
In the not so distant past, players have moved from the Canes to other franchises because of lack of game time and became successful players. The Canes have players with the same potential as Jordan, Ennor, Bridge; the matter is, what are they doing (or are they going to do) with that potential. I fear for the likes of Flanders, Toala etc.
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@Stargazer I'm happy with the guys the Canes have atm, it just doesn't help when some of your most experienced outsides in Milner Skudder and Aso spend most of their time in the injury bin, same goes with Lowe and Umaga Jensen but they aren't in the same calibre so haven't been missed as much.
What players have moved from the Canes and have done better elsewhere recently?
I'm just coming from the point of view that when you look at the players we have signed up moving forward, the lack of experience in some of those positions is fairly underwhelming when you compare it with the Crusaders roster - there is no point having a roster full of unproven potential.
I'd rather the Canes search wider for more experienced talent and give guys like Toala more time to develop. In doing that though the coaches also need to find that balance of keeping consistency in selection but also blooding young guys in the odd game to showcase what they are made of - this is what the Crusaders do really well and are currently doing with Will Jordan atm.
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I am sure you guys have heard the rumours about Jordie moving to the Crusaders to take that 12 spot because Beauden is taking the sabbatical in Japan and Jordie promised to play at the Canes while his brother was there.
Not saying it is true just heard the Rumour
Probably BS but adds to the conversation maybe .
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