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    @nzzp yet Leon re-signed James...he signed a few players at the back end of 2018 too.

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    @taniwharugby any nudge on who he signed?

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    @Tim That's a very polite way of saying he's shit and it's baffling how he ever got capped.

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    @nzzp well maybe not specifically Leon but youd have hoped guys signed at the end of M10 cup were done with his involvement.

    There were several spots still open after his appointment (well given the process probably started early in 2018) last year so surely he was involved in any signings from here.

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    @Canes4life said in Blues 2019:

    should go after Keruru-Symes & Abel moving forward.

    Being realistic, those are my two pics aswell. We need to get the best up and coming hooker into our squad ASAP.

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    @shack I think if they cut someone to make room for Tupaea, I think it'd be Nankivell who gets the chop before Manu. Or even that Japanese Tongan winger.

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    Well that’s good that Leon has cut him if he’s not going to play him. Hope that means we have someone lined up. Abel?

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    @Kirwan said in Blues 2019:

    Well that’s good that Leon has cut him if he’s not going to play him. Hope that means we have someone lined up. Abel?

    Abel would be an improvement. Career best form for Auckland in 2018 and he's mostly continued that form for the Rebels, although he is stuck behind Rangi

    Leni Apisai should make the 23 ahead of Moulds for the next few weeks at least. We need to have a look to see if he's worth keeping (..he's probably not)

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    @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

    @Canes4life said in Blues 2019:

    @nzzp fair call. You can't really call Apisai quality can yah.

    A lot is going to ride on Leon's ability to get some players that he wants, and that are good or can become good. Right now it's a poorly selected squad that he's inherited

    He was a part of the coaching staff that recruited this squad - particularly in the WTG. Yes Tana led the show but there is nothing to indicate he ran a dictatorship. MacDonald will have been on the Blues payroll for a year in two weeks - if he was not scouting and presenting compelling arguments for signings from day one (particularly around the fringes) then I have limited faith in his ability to do so now he has the reigns.

    In both MacDonald and Umaga's defence the final year of the RWC cycle is the worst year to recruit, and the first year the best. So it will be curious to see what miracles he will be able to perform in the next two months.

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    @rotated curious for any examples of other assistants that got to select squads in Super Rugby, or are you just making stuff up.

    Leon clearly inherited Tana’s squad.

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    @Kirwan said in Blues 2019:

    @rotated curious for any examples of other assistants that got to select squads in Super Rugby, or are you just making stuff up.

    Leon clearly inherited Tana’s squad.

    I don't think anyone is denying this wasn't predominantly a squad put together over Tana's tenure (although the hole at 10 is due to Kirwan releasing future 6N MVP). That is kind of the nature of professional sport where players are on multi-year contracts. But Jesus Christ I have seen caretaker coaches takeover midseason in other codes that have had this excuse used less.

    Let's say MacDonald takes over as head coach early May last year (when appointed as assistant, which would be early given NZ Super history wherecoaches are dismissed at the end of the season), what moves could he have possibly made that would tangibly have made this squad substantially different?

    If MacDonald had strong convictions about any contactable player since May he would have had every opportunity to advocate for their signing as a member of the coaching team - this is not an IPL draft where world class players are on the board to select from it is a bunch of rookies, journeymen and third string halfbacks and hookers. Of course Umaga would have had the last say - but unless you believe Umaga vetoed 10 of MacDonald's suggestions then you may be in for a rude awakening next season.

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    @Duluth Abel is in career best form and nearly 30, Moulds is 27 so given some game time he’d be peaking anytime soon, so let’s dump all that development and back another guy whose not been part of the hard slog at the blues whose not been loyal to any team. Blues still have a season ahead to be competitive I’d rather Moulds coming off the bench or starting than worrying about Apisai’s opportunities.

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    @Northlandallday just heard that the Abel signing may not happen with the Blues and an overseas option the better option.
    I would be staggered if Apisai is resigned given his absolute lack of game time, his contract comes to an end at the completion of this super season...once again the finger should be firmly pointed at Tony Hanks..the recruitment officer..quite frankly they would have been better off signing Ross Wright or Kurt Eklund ahead of Apisai..

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    @Steven-Harris Better option for Abel?

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    @Tim probably a money thing, hes also probably thinking am I gonna be stuck behind Parsons..?

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    @Steven-Harris Gotcha.

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    @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2019:

    once again the finger should be firmly pointed at Tony Hanks

    Hopefully the NZRU sackings aren't complete yet. Him and Redman still need to go

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    @Duluth Indeed. Fans haven't forgotten about them!

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    @Duluth Teflon Hanks..!

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