2019 Rugby Championship
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@Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean That excuse is over-used. Aaron Smith and TJP aren't playing behind that pack either.
They're number one and two for the All Blacks with vastly more experience.
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@Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean That excuse is over-used. Aaron Smith and TJP aren't playing behind that pack either.
And TTT doesn't even start ahead of Weber for the Chiefs. Who don't have a bad pack anyway.
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@SammyC said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean That excuse is over-used. Aaron Smith and TJP aren't playing behind that pack either.
And TTT doesn't even start ahead of Weber for the Chiefs. Who don't have a bad pack anyway.
Perhaps if the All Blacks coaches/ selectors were running the Chiefs, they wouldn't have been a bag of shit the first few weeks of the season.
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@Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.
Never heard of him.
Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.
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@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.
Never heard of him.
Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.
He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year
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@KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.
Never heard of him.
Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.
He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year
That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.
So loosies of Read, Ioane, Cane, Savea to choose from! Ha ha ha ha! That is gold! I will not be surprised if it is Read, Ioane and Savea come WC final time.
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@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.
Never heard of him.
Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.
He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year
That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.
Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.
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@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.
Never heard of him.
Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.
He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year
That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.
Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.
How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket
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@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.
Never heard of him.
Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.
He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year
That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.
Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.
How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket
31, so
Forwards: Dane Coles,
Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala,Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody,Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett,Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane,Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea,Liam Squire,Matt ToddandLuke Whitelock.Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams,
Jordie Barrett,George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.
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@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.
Never heard of him.
Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.
He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year
That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.
Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.
How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket
31, so
Forwards: Dane Coles,
Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala,Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody,Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett,Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane,Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea,Liam Squire,Matt ToddandLuke Whitelock.Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams,
Jordie Barrett,George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.
Five midfielders and three outside backs? I doubt it. My guess is that either Laumape or SBW won't be in the squad and that only one of Barrett, Naholo and Bridge won't make it. Too early to tell who that will be.
Loosies still wide open, too. Again, if I had to guess, they'll take Cane, Ardie and Todd, if only because Cane has been falling apart quite often the last few years, and they may want to use Ardie as back-up for Read.
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Swap Jordie for Naholo, and I agree. Not my choice but what I think will happen. With @antipodean
The outside backs are more than enough with DMac and Beaudy in the squad. And Jordie too
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@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.
Never heard of him.
Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.
He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year
That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.
Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.
How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket
31, so
Forwards: Dane Coles,
Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala,Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody,Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett,Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane,Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea,Liam Squire,Matt ToddandLuke Whitelock.Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams,
Jordie Barrett,George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.
not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.
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@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.
Never heard of him.
Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.
He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year
That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.
Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.
How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket
31, so
Forwards: Dane Coles,
Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala,Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody,Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett,Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane,Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea,Liam Squire,Matt ToddandLuke Whitelock.Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams,
Jordie Barrett,George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.
not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.
I'd love to see Bridge get game time on the right wing to make it his. SBW simply isn't getting enough time on the field at the Blues, but I think they'll still take him. Naholo's injury has come at a bad time, so his inclusion in the RC would be opportunity because he was an All Black. If he didn't play the house down I feel they'd leave him at home. But we still don't have a right winger make the position his own. Easily the weakest position in NZ at the moment.
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@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.
Never heard of him.
Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.
He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year
That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.
Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.
How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket
31, so
Forwards: Dane Coles,
Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala,Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody,Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett,Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane,Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea,Liam Squire,Matt ToddandLuke Whitelock.Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams,
Jordie Barrett,George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.
not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.
I'd love to see Bridge get game time on the right wing to make it his. SBW simply isn't getting enough time on the field at the Blues, but I think they'll still take him. Naholo's injury has come at a bad time, so his inclusion in the RC would be opportunity because he was an All Black. If he didn't play the house down I feel they'd leave him at home. But we still don't have a right winger make the position his own. Easily the weakest position in NZ at the moment.
i agree with everything you just said. Except maybe i don't really rate Naholo all that highly so couldn't give a stuff if he goes or not. However, if they are fit, Smith, Naholo and Ioane are nailed on selections.
But it's inevitable that we are going to leave one of our best midfielders at home to take the two sicknotes.
And it's probably also inevitable that the wildly underwhelming J Barrett is going to get an undeserved ticket.
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@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.
Never heard of him.
Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.
He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year
That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.
Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.
How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket
31, so
Forwards: Dane Coles,
Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala,Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody,Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett,Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane,Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea,Liam Squire,Matt ToddandLuke Whitelock.Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams,
Jordie Barrett,George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.
not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.
I'd love to see Bridge get game time on the right wing to make it his. SBW simply isn't getting enough time on the field at the Blues, but I think they'll still take him. Naholo's injury has come at a bad time, so his inclusion in the RC would be opportunity because he was an All Black. If he didn't play the house down I feel they'd leave him at home. But we still don't have a right winger make the position his own. Easily the weakest position in NZ at the moment.
But it's inevitable that we are going to leave one of our best midfielders at home to take the two sicknotes.
And it's probably also inevitable that the wildly underwhelming J Barrett is going to get an undeserved ticket.
and the third travesty is that B Barrett will likely start ahead of Mouanga
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@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.
Never heard of him.
Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.
He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year
That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.
Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.
How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket
31, so
Forwards: Dane Coles,
Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala,Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody,Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett,Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane,Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea,Liam Squire,Matt ToddandLuke Whitelock.Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams,
Jordie Barrett,George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.
not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.
I'd love to see Bridge get game time on the right wing to make it his. SBW simply isn't getting enough time on the field at the Blues, but I think they'll still take him. Naholo's injury has come at a bad time, so his inclusion in the RC would be opportunity because he was an All Black. If he didn't play the house down I feel they'd leave him at home. But we still don't have a right winger make the position his own. Easily the weakest position in NZ at the moment.
But it's inevitable that we are going to leave one of our best midfielders at home to take the two sicknotes.
And it's probably also inevitable that the wildly underwhelming J Barrett is going to get an undeserved ticket.
and the third travesty is that B Barrett will likely start ahead of Mouanga
and may god help us all
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@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.
Never heard of him.
Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.
He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year
That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.
Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.
How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket
31, so
Forwards: Dane Coles,
Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala,Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody,Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett,Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane,Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea,Liam Squire,Matt ToddandLuke Whitelock.Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams,
Jordie Barrett,George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.
not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.
I'd love to see Bridge get game time on the right wing to make it his. SBW simply isn't getting enough time on the field at the Blues, but I think they'll still take him. Naholo's injury has come at a bad time, so his inclusion in the RC would be opportunity because he was an All Black. If he didn't play the house down I feel they'd leave him at home. But we still don't have a right winger make the position his own. Easily the weakest position in NZ at the moment.
i agree with everything you just said. Except maybe i don't really rate Naholo all that highly so couldn't give a stuff if he goes or not. However, if they are fit, Smith, Naholo and Ioane are nailed on selections.
But it's inevitable that we are going to leave one of our best midfielders at home to take the two sicknotes.
And it's probably also inevitable that the wildly underwhelming J Barrett is going to get an undeserved ticket.
Are they? I'll be interested to see whether they use Dmac at FB and put B Smith to the wing - they played around with that combination last year and it wouldn't surprise me to see it used in the RC and WC.
