2019 School Rugby
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@Nepia What you describe is not recruiting, inducing to attract or offering a scholarship. It would be great if it's spelled out explicitly, but it doesn't sound as if these rules apply to players that move with their family for the reasons you mention.
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@Stargazer said in 2019 School Rugby:
@Nepia What you describe is not recruiting, inducing to attract or offering a scholarship. It would be great if it's spelled out explicitly, but it doesn't sound as if these rules apply to players that move with their family for the reasons you mention.
Oh well, I guess if it happens we'll see then how they handle it.
TBF, we've only seen a press release and not the policy so it might actually specifically address this.
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Just had a look at the results from SA. What's happening to our schoolboy rugby?
Paul Roos 62 Napier Boys High 7
Affies 31 Christchurch Boys 31
Greys College 54 Southland Boys 0
Boland Landbou 30 Napier Boys 25
Grey College 73 Christchurch Boys 26
Paul Roos 93 Southland Boys 5 -
@akan004 Nothing wrong. The South African schools are either in the middle or at the end of their season, so have already played quite a bit of rugby. The NZ schools participating in the World Schools Festival hadn't even started their preseason yet and only played one or two pre-tournament games in Dubai (on their way to SA) against other non-SA schools.
It was the same last year.
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@akan004 Pretty stock-standard. Ive toured SA with firstXVs a couple of times, pretty even except for a few 'big' schools both literally and figuratively. Grey College, Paul Roos, Paarl Boys are full-on even compared to St Kents etc. And have always dominated NZ schools. A couple of other reason possibly - It is widely reported that doping is also an issue is schoolboys rugby over there (but who knows?) and also im pretty sure the age is different but not 100% sure that its u19 over there. but anyway not a surprise and does not impact as they mover up the levels.
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@Higgins I just checked some fixture lists. I was wrong, they're not at the end of their season. Most fixtures/results lists start half Feb/early March, but they may have very long seasons. I've seen lists finishing in August. Not sure whether the teams on these lists are all 1st XV's, and how many different competitions there are. They seem to play a lot of tournaments/festivals, too.
By the way, interesting to read that player poaching is also an issue in SA.
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Just saw someone on Facebook ask exactly the same question about the results of the NZ schools at the World Schools Rugby Festival. The answer he got from someone from South Africa was that basically all the big schools draft the good players from all over the country and grant them full scholarships, just to play rugby. It's seen as a pathway to professional rugby.
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An (incomplete) list of school rugby preseason results. There were more games, but I couldn't find the scores:
Weekend 23-24 March 2019
Francis Douglas MC beat Hawera HS
Kelston BHS 39 - 19 Whangarei BHS
St Kentigern College 54 - 10 St Peters School Cambridge
Rotorua BHS 90 - 0 Dilworth SchoolWeekend 30-31 March 2019
Rathkeale 81 - 0 Te Aute
St Pat's (Wgtn) 38 - 6 Kings Christian Coll (Queensland)
Rangiora HS 35 - 26 Nelson College
Tangaroa Coll 60 - 17 Rosmini Coll
St John's Coll (Hamilton) 51 - 0 Cambridge
Wesley College 17 - 22 Dilworth School
Wellington College 12 - 47 Hastings BHS
St Kentigern College 57 - 0 Westlake BHS -
@Stargazer I remember when cheetahs in Comp the whole 23 squad for one game went to Grey College !!
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Preseason results
Week 1-7 April 2019
Hamilton BHS 34 - 7 Westlake BHS
Rongotai College 1st XV 65 - 0 Kings Christian College (Gold Coast)
St Peters College 67 - 8 St John's College, Hamilton
Marlborough BC 21 - 19 St Patrick's College Town
Gisborne BHS 66 - 12 Lindisfarne College
Auckland Grammar 46 - 7 Mount Albert Grammar ?
Kings College 43 - 19 Scots College
New Plymouth BHS 19 - 7 Feilding HS
Hastings Boys 24 - 17 Kelston BHS
South Otago HS 10 - 36 Timaru BHS
Cambridge HS 26 - 14 Western Heights HS
Pakuranga HS 25 - 5 Howick College
Sacred Heart College 22 - 5 Tauranga BC
Manukura 24 - 5 Wellington College
Rathkeale 1st XV 33 - 46 Hato Paora.
Coming up, among other games:
Kia Tu Pre-Season Rugby Camp (at St Paul's Collegiate, Hamilton
Saturday, 13 April
12.00pm (field 1): St Paul's Collegiate v Palmerston North BHS
12.00pm (field 2): Dilworth School v Tauranga Boys College
1.20pm (field 1): Sacred Heart College v Hamilton Marist U21
1.20pm (field 2): Napier BHS v Westlake BHSTuesday, 16 April
10.30am (field 1): Dilworth School v Napier BHS
10.30am (field 2): Westlake BHS v Palmerston North BHS
12.00pm (field 1): St Paul's Collegiate v Tauranga Boys CollegeSun 14 April 2019 - College Day (Tremain Field, Napier):
10.30am (field 1): Dannevirke HS v Wairoa College
10.30 (field 2): Taradale HS v Karamu HS
12.00pm (field 1): Wairarapa College 1st XV v Hastings BHS 2nd XV
12.00pm (field 2): Freyberg HS v Havelock North HS
1.30pm (field 1): Napier BHS 2nd XV v Lindisfarne College 1st XV (?)
1.30pm (field 2): Central HB College v Taupo-Nui-A-Tia College
3.00pm (field 1): Hastings BHS 1st XV v St Kentigern College 1st XV
3.00pm (field 2): Te Aute College v Tauhara College (Taupo) -
2019 1st XV Rugby SKY Sport broadcast schedule:
Sat May 4: Takapuna Grammar v Massey High School - 12.00pm; Takapuna Grammar
Wed May 8: New Plymouth Boys v Francis Douglas - 12.30pm; New Plymouth Boys
Sat May 11: Rangitoto College v Takapuna Grammar - 12.00pm; Rangitoto College
Sat May 18: St John's College (Hastings) v St John's College (Hamilton) - 12.30pm; St John's College (Hastings)
Wed May 22: Southland Boys v Otago Boys - 1.00pm; Southland Boys
Sat May 25: King's College v St Kentigern College - 2.30pm; King's College
Thurs May 30: Christchurch Boys v Christ's College - 2.30pm; Christchurch Boys
Sat June 1: Westake Boys v Rosmini College - 12.00pm; Westake Boys
Thurs June 6: Rotorua Boys v Tauranga Boys - 12.30pm; Rotorua Boys
Sat June 8: Wesley College v Rathkeale College - 2.30pm; Wesley College
Mon June 10: Timaru Boys v St Andrew's College - 12.00pm; Timaru Boys
Sat June 15: Napier Boys v Hastings Boys - 12.00pm; Napier Boys
Sat June 22; Hamilton Boys v Rotorua Boys - 2.30pm; Hamilton Boys
Sat June 29: King's College v St Peter's College - 1.00pm; King's College
Sat July 6: St Paul's Collegiate v St Peter's School Cambridge - 1.00pm; St Paul's Collegiate
Sat July 20: Wakatipu High v Dunstan High - 12.30pm; Wakatipu High
Wed july 24: St Pat's Silverstream v St Pat's College - 12.30pm; St Pat's Silverstream
Sat July 27: St Bede's College v Shirley Boys - 2.30pm; St Bede's College
Wed July 31; Palmerston North Boys v Napier Boys - 12.30pm; Palmerston North Boys
Sat Aug 3: Christchurch Boys v Rangiora High School - 2.30pm; Christchurch BoysSat Aug 10: Finals TBC
Fri Aug 16: Nth Harbour Girls and Boys FINAL - TBC; Harbour Stadium
Sun Aug 18: Wellington Prem 1A Final; TBC - Jerry Collins Stadium
Sat Aug 24: AKL 1A Final - Eden Park
Sat Aug 24: UC Championship Final - 2.30pm; CanterburySat Aug 31: TOP Regional Final
Fri Sept 6: National TOP 4 Semi - 1.00pm; Semi 2 - 2.45pm; Palmerston North
Sun Sept 8: National Top 4 Finals 10-2pm; Palmertson NorthMon Sept 30: New Zealand Schools v Fiji Schools; Hamilton
NZ Barbarian Schools v Australian U18 Schools; Hamilton
Fri Oct 4; NZ Barbarian Schools v Fiji Schools; Hamilton
New Zealand Schools v Fiji Schools; Hamilton1ST XV RUGBY MOVING TO SKY SPORT CHANNELS
Great news for rugby fans. Sky will this year broadcast its Land Rover 1st XV rugby season on Sky Sport, moving from the Rugby Channel and therefore making the games accessible to all Sky Sport subscribers.The 2019 Land Rover 1st XV rugby season is looking to be bigger than ever with Sky Sport covering 33 Land Rover 1st XV rugby matches LIVE plus a further four matches featuring New Zealand Schools and NZ Barbarian Schools.Sky has broadcast the New Zealand Schools vs Australian Schoolboys match at the end of the season every year since 2010, and will do so again this year. Sky also supports the New Zealand Schools Rugby Sevens tournament every year by filming and producing the Condor Sevens tournament, which features over 100 teams participating from schools all over New Zealand.... and then they forget to include the NZ Schools v Australia Schools in the list. I assume it should be the last game on the list
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Preseason results:
Week 8 - 14 April 2019
De La Salle College 24 - 37 Francis Douglas MC
Massey HS 15 - 10 Aorere College
Kelston BHS 26 - 17 Gisborne BHS
Nelson College 68 - 19 Rongotai College
Tangaroa College 17 - 12 Mt Albert Grammar
Kings College 34 - 25 Otago BHS
St John's College (Hamilton) 24 - 29 Hato Paora College
Kings HS 43 - 5 Timaru BHSSun 14 April 2019 - College Day (Napier)
Dannevirke HS 17 - 31 Wairoa College
Taradale HS 12 - 41 Karamu HS
Wairarapa College 1st XV 12 - 0 Hastings BHS 2nd XV
Freyberg HS 22 - 22 Havelock North HS
Napier Boys High 2nd XV 12 - 33 Lindisfarne College 1st XV
Central HB College 19 - 5 Taupo-Nui-A-Tia College
Hastings BHS 1st XV 12 - 22 St Kentigern College 1st XV
Te Aute College 12 - 38 Tauhara CollegeKia Tu Pre-Season Rugby Camp (at St Paul's Collegiate, Hamilton)
Saturday, 13 April
St Paul's Collegiate 38 - 15 Palmerston North BHS
Dilworth School 7 - 59 Tauranga BC
Sacred Heart College v Hamilton Marist U21
Napier BHS 24 - 22 Westlake BHSTuesday, 16 April
Dilworth School 8 - 40 Napier BHS
St Paul's Collegiate 5 - 29 Tauranga BC
Westlake BHS v Palmerston North BHS ??? -
Eligible Age of First XVs in question
Are there some changes ahead for First XV rugby? College Sport Media has obtained an email from Steve Lancaster, NZR’s head of participation and development, that outlines a tightening up of age and eligibility rules. At the heart of the matter is that in NZR’s view, all open-age college competitions across the country are classified as Under 19 competitions, mostly due to the fact that players who are already 18 as of 1 January are eligible to take part. While this is reasonable, other NZR rules then prevent Under 16 (or Year 10) players from playing in those same competitions. To get around that, some unions and competition organisers have classified their competitions as U18, with dispensations for players already 18 years old. However NZR’s directive would appear to put an end to that.The rationale for these rules are sensible. In an age where player safety is becoming an increasing focus, addressing the physical and mental disparities that exist between developing and developed bodies is at the forefront of that. Differences in size, like between props and locks, and half and fullbacks, is an accepted part of the game but NZR’s view is that older players are better equipped to deal with those rather than a situation of a 19-year-old prop versus a 15-year-old halfback. While this is unlikely to have an effect in the major First XV competitions, an outright ban on players who aren’t 16 when the school year starts could have dire consequences for the large number of schools up and down the country that struggle to put out a First or Second XV each week. When participation numbers are falling that could be a further death knell for the game in some areas. Fortunately, with the college season almost underway, NZR have for this year decided to enforce an interim solution requiring players already 18 to obtain a dispensation to play while they investigate options for future years. But it seems likely that changes will be in place for 2020. Whether those are enforcement of the current rules – e.g. Under 16s cannot play – or dispensations required for those older than the norm for school will have to be seen. -
Preseason results:
Week 15 - 21 April 2019
Tangaroa College 1st XV 22 - 17 Wesley College 1st XV
Kings College 40 - 13 Christchurch BHS
Nelson College 69 - 7 Downlands College (AUS)
Scots College 14 - 12 St Patrick's College Silverstream
Auckland GS 61 - 13 Palmerston North BHS
Rangiora HS 19 - 19 Timaru BHSSt Pat's Silverstream v Scots College
John Paul College v Hato Paora College *
Marlborough BC vs Downlands College - Night GameEarlier this week:
St Thomas of Canterbury Coll 26 - 29 Kings Coll
St Pat's Town 12 - 22 St Bedes -
20th Sanix World Rugby Youth Tournament
Participating schools - boys' 1st XV:
8 overseas teams (but not last year's champions, Ratu Kadavulevu School from Fiji!)
Waverley College (Australia)
Exeter College (England)
Pexin High School (Korea)
St Peter's College (New Zealand)
Enisei-STM (Russia)
Paul Roos Gymnasium (South Africa)
The British Schools ( Uruguay)
Cardiff and Vale College (Wales)8 Japanese teams
Ryutsu Keizai University comes Kashiwa High School (Chiba)
Toingakuen high school (Kanagawa)
Chubu University Kasugaoka High School (Aichi)
Kyoto Engineering College High School (Kyoto)
Kyoto Nariakira High School (Kyoto)
Osaka Sakai High School (Osaka)
Higashi-Fukuoka High School (Fukuoka)
Saga Industrial High School (Saga)Participating schools - girls' sevens:
4 verseas teams
Belmont Secondary School (Canada)
Hartley College (England)
Howwick College (New Zealand)
Moscow Girls Sevens (Russia)4 Japanese teams
Kanto Gakuin Rokuura High School (Kanagawa)
Otemon Gakuin High School (Osaka)
Iwami Chikakan High School (Shimane)
Fukuoka Ladies Rugby Football Club (Fukuoka)Pool games St Peter's College (Pool B )
Sun 28 April, 3.15pm NZT (12.15 local time): St Peter's v Higashi Fukuoka HS (Sanix Global Arena Stadium)
Mon 29 April, 1.30pm NZT (10.30am local time): St Peter's v Chubu University Kasugaoka High School (Field B )
Wed 1 May, 5.30pm NZT (2.30pm local time): St Peter's v Cardiff and Vale College (Sanix Global Arena Stadium)Last year, the games were streamed live. I haven't seen an announcement about livestreaming, yet.
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