New Zealand v Bangladesh Test #2
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@westcoastie said in New Zealand v Bangladesh Test #2:
@Damo I'd lean more towards a poor first hour or so from the BCs. I think they just assumed they'd be in the wickets, and weren't able to tighten up after the first 5-6 overs. Real dumb cricket.
Yes they're not making the batsman play enough.
Looking a bit better now, but they're still able to leave too much.
Has also been good batting. Good positive stuff from the Bangles.
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Bangladesh feeling generous today. Twice Wagner had the batsman given out, but then overturned on DRS, only to immediately get a pretty similar dismissal the next delivery.
Both teams have reasons to be happy and reasons to be frustrated at lunch. Bangladesh probably the slightly happier of the two, but that last wicket probably the difference between them clearly winning the session and them just edging the session.
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It's a flat pitch covered in grass. We haven't utilised the conditions at all well, but it's probably not quite as bad for batting as it looks.
Tamim is in great form and we have to give him some credit for putting our bowlers on the back foot with some really positive batting. Very impressive. Boult in particular got frustrated which is not like him.
Problem now for the Bangles is they fall away badly. Rolling them for 200 odd is on the cards again despite Tamim's efforts.
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Those Bangladeshi 9, 10 and 11 make a mockery of test level and professional cricket. That Bangladesh has had ample time and money to take advantage of that huge population, raises many questions.
On a positive note, Chats is a legend. Early 1990s Hutt Valley had a Hawke cup challenge in Nelson. On the Saturday night I joined the Valley boys on the traditional night out. Chats was playing (40 something?) and was pouring through the jugs. Bloody witty, but it took a bit to adjust to his understated way of talking. Obviously the young lads were on the strut and prowl but Chats got heaps of attention from, well now days they're called milfs. An abiding highlight of my sad life recalls us all striding down the middle of Hardy St at 2 am with Chats calling out my name and asking " how far to the strip club!"
And no, no shenanigans from Chats, he's too classy for that, he was just out being a team man.
Great bloke
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@Siam Cricket is a middle class sport. Bangladesh only now is starting to get one.
If population playing a sport is all it takes, the Chinese would be crushing in football. But enough money to train your young ones properly is far more important.
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@Chester-Draws I've had a fair bit to do with Bangladesh cricket. It's corruption and intentional nest feathering.
Actually Chinese national cricket teams demonstrated strong ethics in the tournament's I've been involved with
A trip to any cricket club in Australia and any pass through an Indian town will dispute the claim that cricket is a middle class sport. It used to be that being noticed was class specific, that's decreasing and in no way an excuse for the poor cricket from Bangladesh (in the main) for 15 years
and as I type that we're 2 for 😮
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@Siam said in New Zealand v Bangladesh Test #2:
Those Bangladeshi 9, 10 and 11 make a mockery of test level and professional cricket. That Bangladesh has had ample time and money to take advantage of that huge population, raises many questions.
On a positive note, Chats is a legend. Early 1990s Hutt Valley had a Hawke cup challenge in Nelson. On the Saturday night I joined the Valley boys on the traditional night out. Chats was playing (40 something?) and was pouring through the jugs. Bloody witty, but it took a bit to adjust to his understated way of talking. Obviously the young lads were on the strut and prowl but Chats got heaps of attention from, well now days they're called milfs. An abiding highlight of my sad life recalls us all striding down the middle of Hardy St at 2 am with Chats calling out my name and asking " how far to the strip club!"
And no, no shenanigans from Chats, he's too classy for that, he was just out being a team man.
Great bloke
Bangladesh have gotten a lot better though. They are a competitive side and could even beat us at home on a good day (we lost 4-0 in ODIs over there). Their batting is okay in placid conditions or at home. It's just that they can't develop even one quality fast bowler. Just look at the averages from the past 4/5 years. Even a team like Sri Lanka who aren't that good have some decent fast bowlers like Lakmal. It's probably a combination of Bangladesh not having the pitches and the people don't have the proper nutrition. It takes a lot to bowl at 135+ which is generally what you need.
It is worth noting Bangladesh have finished above us at each of the last three u-19 tournaments.
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@Siam said in New Zealand v Bangladesh Test #2:
Those Bangladeshi 9, 10 and 11 make a mockery of test level and professional cricket. That Bangladesh has had ample time and money to take advantage of that huge population, raises many questions.
On a positive note, Chats is a legend. Early 1990s Hutt Valley had a Hawke cup challenge in Nelson. On the Saturday night I joined the Valley boys on the traditional night out. Chats was playing (40 something?) and was pouring through the jugs. Bloody witty, but it took a bit to adjust to his understated way of talking. Obviously the young lads were on the strut and prowl but Chats got heaps of attention from, well now days they're called milfs. An abiding highlight of my sad life recalls us all striding down the middle of Hardy St at 2 am with Chats calling out my name and asking " how far to the strip club!"
And no, no shenanigans from Chats, he's too classy for that, he was just out being a team man.
Great bloke
Ha, that's sensational.
Like I said, had never actually heard him speak, he's only just retired from cricket at 68, he still played all the while working six days a week doing the corporate cab thing.
In other news the Black Cap openers completely forgot what they did last test and managed 8 between them.
But KW and Rossco are at the crease, we'll be aight.....
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@MN5 said in New Zealand v Bangladesh Test #2:
Geez Ewen Chatfield is a strange bloke with awkward social skills.
I’ve just realised this is the first time I’ve ever heard him speak.
Ultimate introvert. Shunned attention. I don't know how they conned into speaking in the first place
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@hydro11 India, SL and Pakistan produce quick bowlers on the same type of pitches.
They're no longer new to international cricket and surely have enough resources to coach international tail enders to be at least as good with the bat as 3rd grade club cricketers.
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@hydro11 said in New Zealand v Bangladesh Test #2:
@Siam said in New Zealand v Bangladesh Test #2:
Those Bangladeshi 9, 10 and 11 make a mockery of test level and professional cricket. That Bangladesh has had ample time and money to take advantage of that huge population, raises many questions.
On a positive note, Chats is a legend. Early 1990s Hutt Valley had a Hawke cup challenge in Nelson. On the Saturday night I joined the Valley boys on the traditional night out. Chats was playing (40 something?) and was pouring through the jugs. Bloody witty, but it took a bit to adjust to his understated way of talking. Obviously the young lads were on the strut and prowl but Chats got heaps of attention from, well now days they're called milfs. An abiding highlight of my sad life recalls us all striding down the middle of Hardy St at 2 am with Chats calling out my name and asking " how far to the strip club!"
And no, no shenanigans from Chats, he's too classy for that, he was just out being a team man.
Great bloke
Bangladesh have gotten a lot better though. They are a competitive side and could even beat us at home on a good day (we lost 4-0 in ODIs over there). Their batting is okay in placid conditions or at home. It's just that they can't develop even one quality fast bowler. Just look at the averages from the past 4/5 years. Even a team like Sri Lanka who aren't that good have some decent fast bowlers like Lakmal. It's probably a combination of Bangladesh not having the pitches and the people don't have the proper nutrition. It takes a lot to bowl at 135+ which is generally what you need.
It is worth noting Bangladesh have finished above us at each of the last three u-19 tournaments.
Just like India really (up to a few years ago). Then they developed some pathways, invested in the training, and you get guys like Bumrah and a good quality pace attack.
It can be done, but i tmeans less gin for the administrators. Therefore unlikely to happen