Aussie Cricket
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Can you believe the Big Bash is still fucking going?
The first game was the 19th of December! In what world does a T20 tournament need to take in excess of 2 months?
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:
Can you believe the Big Bash is still fucking going?
The first game was the 19th of December! In what world does a T20 tournament need to take in excess of 2 months?
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:
Can you believe the Big Bash is still fucking going?
The first game was the 19th of December! In what world does a T20 tournament need to take in excess of 2 months?
Yeah. Thought that this arvo when they were playing a replay on tele.
They've cooked their own goose. Nobody gives a shit anymore, and all the kids are back at school so the crowds are down.
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Didn't they look at their own backyard and the shit-show that was super rugby as they tried to expand, expand, expand.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:
Can you believe the Big Bash is still fucking going?
The first game was the 19th of December! In what world does a T20 tournament need to take in excess of 2 months?
So is the NZ tournament, yet with 2 less teams. It's taking them almost 2 months to play 10 T20 games each.
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@booboo said in Aussie Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:
Can you believe the Big Bash is still fucking going?
The first game was the 19th of December! In what world does a T20 tournament need to take in excess of 2 months?
Yeah. Thought that this arvo when they were playing a replay on tele.
They've cooked their own goose. Nobody gives a shit anymore, and all the kids are back at school so the crowds are down.
Mind you, biggish crowd in Hobart last night. Was a semi final though, and Hobart were run away leaders (but lost). A few gaps in the crowd which would not have been if played a month ago.
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@booboo fucken cold though.
My mate who coaches said last year the proposed extension was hard to recruit overseas players for the extra time and their availability for finals, so that's a perspective.But if the extra weeks don't lose money, then consider it a done deal. The financials trump kids bedtimes
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@Siam said in Aussie Cricket:
@booboo fucken cold though.
My mate who coaches said last year the proposed extension was hard to recruit overseas players for the extra time and their availability for finals, so that's a perspective.But if the extra weeks don't lose money, then consider it a done deal. The financials trump kids bedtimes
I wonder how much of that was the calendar this summer being condensed for the WC though. Every major nation has played white ball cricket during this window right, with a greater than usual focus on ODI cricket right?
When it was just over the holidays you could be sure that all English players would be available 2/4 seasons (mandated in their CBA), and there would be at least one sub-continental team who would be the "odd man out" and available, plus NZ's calander would usually allow for T20 specialists to be available for the bulk of pool play or the end of pool play and the finals.
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@Chris-B said in Aussie Cricket:
In the 57th game of 59, which happens to be a semifinal - the team that's fourth in the standings knocks over and knocks out the top ranked Hobart Hurricanes.
Hurricanes lost 4 of their last 6 games. Hardly had ideal momentum, whereas the Stars sprinted into the finals.
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@Donsteppa said in Aussie Cricket:
I watched part of almost every BBL game from Christmas Eve until the second week of January. Think I've only watched a few minutes of highlights since...
Yep.
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@hydro11 said in Aussie Cricket:
@Siam said in Aussie Cricket:
@hydro11 because 1 Perrera innings of about an hour does nothing to explain the Australian ODI team team stinking up the joint since Feb 2017
They lost 4-1 at home last summer and took a game off SA and India making that 4-2, so they managed 1 win per series on home conditions for 2 summers (3wins from 11at home). They got hammered everywhere overseas AND on some days they had their best bowlers and batsmen.
For a country with all that cricket IP and advanced cricketing institutions, the winning history ; the last 2 years performances are more than just Davey having a brain explosion with sandpaper.
But sure, there's nothing unexpected in Australian cricket performances on home soil that can't be explained by noting 2 innings by a Sri Lankan in a losing game in another country
Australian cricket has never seen any value in a "close" loss
There are a couple of factors why Australia tends to do poorly in one day cricket at the moment.
One - they are very reliant on a few players. Their best test bowling fast bowlers are Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins. Their best ODI quicks are Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins. We play 2-3 test series and we know for every series we can bring in a fit Wagner. The Aussies play five home tests and then their quicks are tired. Like last summer when they destroyed England in the Ashes and then, as you say, lost a relatively meaningless series 4-1. The troika were great in the Ashes but shit in the ODIs.Meanwhile Anderson and Broad could just go home.
To put this into perspective, post 2015 World Cup Starc has played 34 ODI's, Hazlewood 31 and Cummins 30. Boult has played 46 and Southee 43 in that time. In that time New Zealand have played 68 ODIs, 27 against South Africa, India and England. Australia have played 66 ODIs in that time but 40 against those three teams. Of those 40 games against those 3 top teams, Cummins has played 17 times, Starc 14 and Hazlewood 11. Of New Zealand's 27 games against the top 3, Boult has played 20 and Southee 23.
The point of all that is Australia look worse than they are if you just look at results. Their problem in a bowling sense is because their quicks are always tired from tests. They don't have a Bracken or a Faulkner or any other ODI specialist. Australia also play more tests and more games against the top teams. Even though they play the top teams more, their best bowlers are often absent from those games. Of course there are other factors like Zampa under-performing.
Obviously much of this is Australia's fault. They don't have the depth and CA schedules too much ODI cricket and proceeds to pick poor squads which are always going to get butchered.Having said that, in the World Cup Australia will have their top bowlers. Australia are at $6 (3rd favourites), we are $9 (5th favourites). There are good reasons for that.
The batting is another story and another long post. In short, the BBL is now way too long and takes up too much oxygen. There are other factors too, of course. Australia's batting has been weak and held up by a few players since 2010.
@Siam Australian cricket looks quite good now they have their best fast bowlers back and firing. They actually would be stronger if Hazlewood or Richardson were fit. That doesn't negate the bad things Cricket Australia has done but those meaningless series against England and India don't seem to hold much weight now.
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Aussie touring squads for SA and NZ
T20I squad Aaron Finch (capt), Matthew Wade (vc), Ashton Agar, Jason Behrendorff, Mitchell Marsh, Glenn Maxwell, Ben McDermott, Riley Meredith, Josh Philippe, Jhye Richardson, Kane Richardson, Daniel Sams, Tanveer Sangha, D'Arcy Short, Marcus Stoinis, Ashton Turner, Andrew Tye, Adam Zampa
Test squad Tim Paine (capt), Pat Cummins (vc), Sean Abbott, Alex Carey, Cameron Green, Marcus Harris, Josh Hazlewood, Travis Head, Moises Henriques, Marnus Labuschagne, Nathan Lyon, Michael Neser, James Pattinson, Will Pucovski, Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc, Mark Steketee, Mitchell Swepson, David Warner
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@Hooroo said in Aussie Cricket:
Aussie touring squads for SA and NZ
T20I squad Aaron Finch (capt), Matthew Wade (vc), Ashton Agar, Jason Behrendorff, Mitchell Marsh, Glenn Maxwell, Ben McDermott, Riley Meredith, Josh Philippe, Jhye Richardson, Kane Richardson, Daniel Sams, Tanveer Sangha, D'Arcy Short, Marcus Stoinis, Ashton Turner, Andrew Tye, Adam Zampa
Test squad Tim Paine (capt), Pat Cummins (vc), Sean Abbott, Alex Carey, Cameron Green, Marcus Harris, Josh Hazlewood, Travis Head, Moises Henriques, Marnus Labuschagne, Nathan Lyon, Michael Neser, James Pattinson, Will Pucovski, Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc, Mark Steketee, Mitchell Swepson, David Warner
@NTA just tagging you so you can prepare to get triggered
